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Re: the U-602
Posted by:
Andrew Eastwood
()
Date: June 26, 2007 01:25PM
Hi Guys
Interesting story, I am open to the idea of a uboat being
in that area but I think the possibility of the sailors
and the CO hiding out from 4/43 untill the end of the war is
very slim, the uboat Commanders book byBusch & Roll tells us that
Schuler was missing from 23/4/43. Also other uboats that interned
themselves in spain or seemed to make there way back to Germany
look at Brandi for instance he and his crew were interned but went back to France to get another boat and continue the war.
Schuler was an experienced uboat officer he was born in 1911 and joined the navy in 1935, he was aboard the Battlecruiser Gneisenau from 5/38-3/40
then did uboat training and then joined Schepkes ledgendary U100
as 1WO from Oct40 to Feb41 getting off just before she was lost.
He then commanded a school boat from 3/41-11/41 then took command of U 602
untill she was lost. This guy was obviously no new recruit and had a fair bit of combat experience so I think this reinforces the fact that he would probably
not just hide away in Spain untill the war finished.
This is a crew list of U602
Once again I highly doubt that all these men would not of contacted there families for the last 64 years the uboat Archive would of found out
about it by now if any of these men survived the war.
Andersch Gerhard FkGfr 09.11.1923 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Bergmann Walter MechGfr 31.05.1922 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Bernhardt Günter MtrGfr 23.04.1924 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Dürsch Georg Mtr.I 03.03.1925 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Ehmke von Gustav Btsm 01.02.1917 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Endl Bruno MtrOGfr 04.10.1919 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Fischer Konrad MaschMt 17.04.1920 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Friedrich Ludwig OLt.ing 04.03.1918 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Fritzsch Fritz MechOGfr 28.09.1922 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Galanski Ernst-Johannes MtrOGfr 30.04.1922 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Gessenharter Friedrich MtrOGfr 30.10.1921 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
birthplace Gladbeck
lost Med.N.of Oran
Goldowski Willi FkOGfr 17.01.1921 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Gorlas Bruno MtrOGfr 14.06.1922 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Guschewski Herbert 00.00.1921 U-602. U-869
Häußler Osmar OFkMt 08.04.1921 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Heimbrodt Rudolf MaschMt 28.03.1918 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Heinrich Günther Lt.z.S U-602. U-365. U-369
serial/entry Crew of I/1941
Hollenders Wilhelm MaschMt 09.10.1919 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Kilian Oswald FkMt 08.10.1921 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Kleinert Edwin-Günter MtrOGfr 09.01.1921 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Knott Erwin MtrOGfr 09.01.1923 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Kohoutek von Kurt OLt.z.S 20.11.1918 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
serial/entry Crew of 1938
Liesner Kurt StOStrm 10.07.1911 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Meinecke Willi MaschGfr 17.05.1924 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Morschel Ferdinand BtsMt 28.04.1920 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Müller Eduard MaschMt 05.10.1916 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Oelke Karl MaschGfr 09.09.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Osterberg August MtrOGfr 20.02.1924 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Pfaff Paul OMasch 23.06.1916 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Piehler Gerhard OFahnr.ing 07.09.1920 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Potenberg Werner OMechMt 30.01.1915 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Richter Martin MaschMt 29.04.1919 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Rüfer Walter MaschOGfr (D)&journalist 29.04.1921 19.04.1943 U-602+ (23.04.42-missing 19.04.43)
lost Med.N.of Oran
awards Iron Cross 2nd. U-boat Badge. Cruiser Badge.
Schacht Friedrich MtrOGfr 17.11.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Schäfer Ernst-Otto Fahnr.z.S U-602+ ?
serial/entry Crew of V/1941
Schäfer Johann MaschMt 20.01.1919 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Schank Werner Fahnr.z.S 09.06.1921 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Schüler Philipp KpLt 17.10.1911 19.04.1943 U-100. 1WO.(10.40-02.41). U-141. Cdr.(03.41-11.41). U-602+ Cdr.(12.41-04.43) missing
birthplace Frankfurt / Main
lost Med.N.of Oran
serial/entry Crew of 1935
Schwarz Paul MaschOGfr 10.02.1924 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Stahl Wilhelm MaschOGfr 21.01.1920 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Strauss Herbert MtrGfr 01.07.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Strempel Dietrich Lt.z.S 02.08.1921 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
serial/entry Crew of 1939
Szudnagis Walter 00.00.1919 U-602. U-907
Tautorat Hermann OMasch 16.04.1912 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Truschkowski Hans-Joachim MaschGfr 04.05.1921 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Veelmann Wilhelm MaschGfr 23.05.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Villain Willi MaschOGfr 04.05.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Vlaswinkel Friedrich MaschOGfr 21.12.1921 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Weckmann Edmund MaschOGfr 22.03.1920 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Weith Johann MtrOGfr 01.01.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Wiese Franz MaschGfr 20.01.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Wiese Franz MaschGfr 20.01.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Cheers
Easty
Interesting story, I am open to the idea of a uboat being
in that area but I think the possibility of the sailors
and the CO hiding out from 4/43 untill the end of the war is
very slim, the uboat Commanders book byBusch & Roll tells us that
Schuler was missing from 23/4/43. Also other uboats that interned
themselves in spain or seemed to make there way back to Germany
look at Brandi for instance he and his crew were interned but went back to France to get another boat and continue the war.
Schuler was an experienced uboat officer he was born in 1911 and joined the navy in 1935, he was aboard the Battlecruiser Gneisenau from 5/38-3/40
then did uboat training and then joined Schepkes ledgendary U100
as 1WO from Oct40 to Feb41 getting off just before she was lost.
He then commanded a school boat from 3/41-11/41 then took command of U 602
untill she was lost. This guy was obviously no new recruit and had a fair bit of combat experience so I think this reinforces the fact that he would probably
not just hide away in Spain untill the war finished.
This is a crew list of U602
Once again I highly doubt that all these men would not of contacted there families for the last 64 years the uboat Archive would of found out
about it by now if any of these men survived the war.
Andersch Gerhard FkGfr 09.11.1923 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Bergmann Walter MechGfr 31.05.1922 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Bernhardt Günter MtrGfr 23.04.1924 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Dürsch Georg Mtr.I 03.03.1925 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Ehmke von Gustav Btsm 01.02.1917 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Endl Bruno MtrOGfr 04.10.1919 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Fischer Konrad MaschMt 17.04.1920 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Friedrich Ludwig OLt.ing 04.03.1918 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Fritzsch Fritz MechOGfr 28.09.1922 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Galanski Ernst-Johannes MtrOGfr 30.04.1922 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Gessenharter Friedrich MtrOGfr 30.10.1921 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
birthplace Gladbeck
lost Med.N.of Oran
Goldowski Willi FkOGfr 17.01.1921 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Gorlas Bruno MtrOGfr 14.06.1922 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Guschewski Herbert 00.00.1921 U-602. U-869
Häußler Osmar OFkMt 08.04.1921 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Heimbrodt Rudolf MaschMt 28.03.1918 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Heinrich Günther Lt.z.S U-602. U-365. U-369
serial/entry Crew of I/1941
Hollenders Wilhelm MaschMt 09.10.1919 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Kilian Oswald FkMt 08.10.1921 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Kleinert Edwin-Günter MtrOGfr 09.01.1921 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Knott Erwin MtrOGfr 09.01.1923 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Kohoutek von Kurt OLt.z.S 20.11.1918 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
serial/entry Crew of 1938
Liesner Kurt StOStrm 10.07.1911 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Meinecke Willi MaschGfr 17.05.1924 23.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Morschel Ferdinand BtsMt 28.04.1920 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Müller Eduard MaschMt 05.10.1916 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Oelke Karl MaschGfr 09.09.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Osterberg August MtrOGfr 20.02.1924 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Pfaff Paul OMasch 23.06.1916 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Piehler Gerhard OFahnr.ing 07.09.1920 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Potenberg Werner OMechMt 30.01.1915 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Richter Martin MaschMt 29.04.1919 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Rüfer Walter MaschOGfr (D)&journalist 29.04.1921 19.04.1943 U-602+ (23.04.42-missing 19.04.43)
lost Med.N.of Oran
awards Iron Cross 2nd. U-boat Badge. Cruiser Badge.
Schacht Friedrich MtrOGfr 17.11.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Schäfer Ernst-Otto Fahnr.z.S U-602+ ?
serial/entry Crew of V/1941
Schäfer Johann MaschMt 20.01.1919 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Schank Werner Fahnr.z.S 09.06.1921 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Schüler Philipp KpLt 17.10.1911 19.04.1943 U-100. 1WO.(10.40-02.41). U-141. Cdr.(03.41-11.41). U-602+ Cdr.(12.41-04.43) missing
birthplace Frankfurt / Main
lost Med.N.of Oran
serial/entry Crew of 1935
Schwarz Paul MaschOGfr 10.02.1924 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Stahl Wilhelm MaschOGfr 21.01.1920 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Strauss Herbert MtrGfr 01.07.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Strempel Dietrich Lt.z.S 02.08.1921 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
serial/entry Crew of 1939
Szudnagis Walter 00.00.1919 U-602. U-907
Tautorat Hermann OMasch 16.04.1912 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Truschkowski Hans-Joachim MaschGfr 04.05.1921 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Veelmann Wilhelm MaschGfr 23.05.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Villain Willi MaschOGfr 04.05.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Vlaswinkel Friedrich MaschOGfr 21.12.1921 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Weckmann Edmund MaschOGfr 22.03.1920 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Weith Johann MtrOGfr 01.01.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Wiese Franz MaschGfr 20.01.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Wiese Franz MaschGfr 20.01.1922 19.04.1943 U-602+ missing
lost Med.N.of Oran
Cheers
Easty