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RE: Then there is......British Sovreign Territory
Posted by: John Griffiths ()
Date: May 30, 2001 03:11PM

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Hi Oliver,

>>A war grave comes into effect by declaration of the own government.<<

Yes, that\'s correct. No problems there!

>>In Britain the only Ship-War Graves existing are the HMS Ark Royal And the HMS Sheffield. <<

Err, not quite! There is, for example, HMS Hood up in Scapa Flow. There\'s HMS Prince of Wales in the Far East. There\'s also the ships lost in the Falklands conflict....vessels scattered around the coast of the UK....quite a few more than the two you mentioned!

>>Always when territorial rights of other nations are affected the whole thing becomes more or less a matter of good will of this nation to declare a war grave and to ensure the status.<<

I think it has also got a lot to do with old shipmates / old comrades associations who pressure and lobby governments to recognise the sacrifices made by crews during conflict. Good will has more to do, in the UK at least, with vote catching. Catch your MP at the right time and they\'ll scream the loudest hoping you\'ll remember that and vote for them! Memories of sacrifice are short in some circles.

>> Regarding this situation the US has shed not much -or no good will at all- to the german war graves in form of the german subs in US-waters.<<

How - more seriously - how would they police it? The USCG have more to do nowadays with drugs than policing wrecks. Also, with scuba equipment easily available and boats cheap to hire you\'ve created a business. Money talks, Oliver.

Sadly, not all people respect those who gave their lives fighting for their beliefs - no matter what flag they fought under.

Aye,

John</HTML>

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RE: Neat Piece of Trivia Tim 05/28/2001 03:55AM
RE: Neat Piece of Trivia MPC 05/28/2001 10:47AM
RE: Neat Piece of Trivia Oliver 05/28/2001 11:36AM
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RE: Then there is...another question Johannes 05/28/2001 05:36PM
RE: Then there is...another question MPC 05/28/2001 07:28PM
RE: Then there is...another question - Thanks! Johannes 05/29/2001 04:55AM
RE: Then there is......British Sovreign Territory John Griffiths 05/28/2001 07:15PM
RE: Then there is......British Sovreign Territory Oliver 05/30/2001 11:42AM
RE: Then there is......British Sovreign Territory John Griffiths 05/30/2001 03:11PM
RE: Then there is......British Sovreign Territory Vin 05/30/2001 10:04PM
RE: Then there is..Vin! John Griffiths 06/02/2001 04:36PM
RE: Then there is......British Sovreign Territory oliver 05/31/2001 09:18PM
RE: OLIVER........... MPC 05/31/2001 09:34PM
RE: OLIVER........... oliver 06/03/2001 10:04PM
RE: Not a Proverb MPC 05/31/2001 09:44PM
RE: Then there is......British Sovreign Territory Barry Williams 06/01/2001 08:59AM
War Grave &amp; Due Respect Oliver 05/30/2001 11:43AM
As the Monkey said.... Tim 05/29/2001 01:28AM
RE: As the Monkey said.... Rainer Bruns 05/29/2001 04:10AM
RE: Your choice of words.... MPC 05/29/2001 03:13PM
Sorry, All. Tim 05/30/2001 12:24AM
RE: Sorry, All. Rainer Bruns 05/30/2001 12:47AM
RE: Your apology accepted.. MPC 05/30/2001 09:39AM
THE WINNER! Frank Blazich 05/29/2001 11:55AM
THE WINNER! Frank Blazich 05/29/2001 11:56AM
RE: Neat Piece of Trivia Alan Poore 05/28/2001 10:31PM
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