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RE: Rohwer part three
Posted by:
Siri
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Date: June 28, 2001 11:42PM
<HTML>Would it not be possible to look at the arrival dates of the two convoys, and compare those to the position in which the ships were sunk and the date?
Arrival Liverpool for HX 47 was June 17, while arrival for HX 48 was June 20. Taking the sinking position of Italia and the date into consideration, then looking at what would be the normal convoy speed, would it not be possible to eliminate one of the convoys? Just wondering (at the risk of really proving my \"just a little old housewife\" status this time, but so what).
Here\'s what my Norwegian sources say on the Italia: Inward bound in Convoy HX 48. On the evening of June 14 the west coast section was detatched south of Ireland and headed towards St. Georges Channel escorted by just one escort vessel. Shortly afterwards a message was received that a convoy straggler had been torpedoed, and the escort vessel went to assist. Just after midnight on June 15 (position 50 37N 08 44 W) U-38 fired 2 torpedoes at the convoy, one hitting Italia, the other a Danish ship (which we know was Erik Boye). Now, if I have understood this text correctly 1) Italia and Erik Boye were not stragglers, and 2) the convoy was fairly close to \"home\". (This alone would lead me to believe they were in HX 47 [since HX 48 did not have any ships sunk]. Again, the arrival dates for the two convoys reinforces that belief).
Another piece of info I have is that Italia\'s survivors were picked up by HMS Fowey at 06:15 and taken to Plymouth (was that the escort I wonder?). The more I look at this, the more it looks like HX 47 (don\'t ya\'ll think?).
Siri (who has been on the Oklahoma prairie too long, startin\' to pick up the lingo)
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Arrival Liverpool for HX 47 was June 17, while arrival for HX 48 was June 20. Taking the sinking position of Italia and the date into consideration, then looking at what would be the normal convoy speed, would it not be possible to eliminate one of the convoys? Just wondering (at the risk of really proving my \"just a little old housewife\" status this time, but so what).
Here\'s what my Norwegian sources say on the Italia: Inward bound in Convoy HX 48. On the evening of June 14 the west coast section was detatched south of Ireland and headed towards St. Georges Channel escorted by just one escort vessel. Shortly afterwards a message was received that a convoy straggler had been torpedoed, and the escort vessel went to assist. Just after midnight on June 15 (position 50 37N 08 44 W) U-38 fired 2 torpedoes at the convoy, one hitting Italia, the other a Danish ship (which we know was Erik Boye). Now, if I have understood this text correctly 1) Italia and Erik Boye were not stragglers, and 2) the convoy was fairly close to \"home\". (This alone would lead me to believe they were in HX 47 [since HX 48 did not have any ships sunk]. Again, the arrival dates for the two convoys reinforces that belief).
Another piece of info I have is that Italia\'s survivors were picked up by HMS Fowey at 06:15 and taken to Plymouth (was that the escort I wonder?). The more I look at this, the more it looks like HX 47 (don\'t ya\'ll think?).
Siri (who has been on the Oklahoma prairie too long, startin\' to pick up the lingo)
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Rohwer part three
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Jan-Olof | 06/28/2001 04:30AM |
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RE: Rohwer part three
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Josef Pijacek | 06/28/2001 06:22AM |
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RE: Rohwer part three
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Ted Agar | 06/28/2001 10:08PM |
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RE: Rohwer part three
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Siri | 06/28/2001 11:42PM |
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RE: Rohwer part three
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Rainer Kolbicz | 06/29/2001 06:46PM |
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RE: Rohwer part three
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Ted Agar | 06/29/2001 09:37PM |