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RE: apology?
Posted by: John Griffiths ()
Date: July 04, 2001 04:14PM

<HTML>Gavin,

>>I\\\'d like to apologise for my two history type posts below for the fact that they contain no:

Nazi Hero worship
No waxing about discredited nazi awards
no birthday celebrations for uboats
no joys about new types and quantities of more deadly inventions during 40-45.<<

Whoa, easy on there! It might sound like hero worship to you - and from some quarters it might even actually be that - but 90% of this forum are here because they enjoy the cut and thrust of the debate and the historical arguments presented. No-one here, to the best of my knowledge, has ever hero worshiped any Nazis!

>>No Hero worked for uboats the real heroes were university students who died in concentration camps opposing the war. <<

That is a slur on those who fought and fell so that bloody students could have the right to protest in most countries! The right to freedom has been paid for over centuries by the blood on those who took arms. Jesus Gavin! That statement is a bit rich about students - the first in the queue to moan, the first to want to wash their \'concerns\' in public.

>>All uboat crews were volunteers. Do you really support Hitlers voluntary people!!! The German Navy had honourable people and commanders . volunteers are volunteers to the day they die.<<

Yes, they were. Why did they volunteer? For the same reasons as aircrew volunteered, for example. As Commando and Special Forces volunteered, as resistance volunteered - and continue to volunteer today. They volunteered because they were patriots and believed in the cause - and your dissing them is, again, another slur on the majority who believed in their particular cause - good or bad ( depending on your politics).

I think you\'ve made your point but doing it with such unforgiveable generalisations about the facts is a bit much.

As an ex \'volunteer\' in a \'police action\' which many students ( who sat on their arses at home and moaned about the evil we did ) protested about, let\'s just say I was proud to serve my country and do my bit - however \'wrong\' it was when viewed through the eyes of some fee paid, comfortably off trendy lefty with nothing better to do than \'make a stand\' - away from the action.

Don\'t knock what is patriotism and personal choice, Gavin. You have your opinions and I ( amongst others ) mine. However, we all share one thing in common: an interest in this part of maritime history.

Aye,

John</HTML>

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Subject Written By Posted
apology gavin 07/04/2001 09:29AM
RE: wrong apology Rainer Bruns 07/04/2001 12:07PM
RE: wrong apology james Stewart 07/04/2001 06:09PM
RE: wrong apology Forest 07/04/2001 07:08PM
flame wars kurt 07/05/2001 03:01PM
No, MY apologies Dietzsch 07/04/2001 02:48PM
RE: No, MY apologies Joe 07/05/2001 12:40AM
RE: apology? John Griffiths 07/04/2001 04:14PM
RE: apology? JR 07/04/2001 07:50PM
RE: apology? Joe 07/05/2001 12:35AM
RE:Who have left the mad dog loose? Antonio Veiga 07/04/2001 04:15PM
RE: apology Jim 07/04/2001 04:30PM
RE: apology Ricky.S 07/04/2001 04:54PM
RE: apology Ken Dunn 07/04/2001 05:13PM
RE: apology (wonderful) Gudmundur Helgason 07/05/2001 09:23AM
RE: apology (wonderful) Walt 07/05/2001 10:18AM
RE: apology (wonderful) gavin 07/05/2001 10:25AM
RE: apology (wonderful) Stan 07/05/2001 10:41AM
RE: apology (wonderful) gavin 07/05/2001 10:37AM
RE: apology (wonderful) John Griffiths 07/05/2001 02:46PM
RE: Now your Talking!! Joe Brennan 07/06/2001 07:48AM
RE: apology (wonderful) AZ 07/06/2001 07:54AM
RE: apology (wonderful) Steve 07/06/2001 02:10PM
FLAMEBAIT! John R. 07/05/2001 12:05PM
RE: apology Craig McLean 07/08/2001 07:35PM


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