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RE: Von Clausewitz
Posted by:
Yuri IL\'IN
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Date: July 24, 2001 12:10AM
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SuperKraut wrote:
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The American atomic bomb in 1945 is Hitler\'s own fault. If he had not persecuted the Jewish Germans, the people who got Roosevelt to start the Manhattan project would not have left Europe. His continued persecution of the Jewish Germans and his total mismanagement of science policy prevented the German bomb.
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It seems to me that this is not correct. I heard the point of view many times, that the USA constructed A-bomb because of the Jews. This is certain not correct. Creation A-bomb is difficult project. It includes scientific, engineering and technological parts. Many scientist even before 2WW was clear that the A-bomb can be created. It was understandable as A-bomb must be arranged. This was clearly for scientist of many as big and little nations. Stalin in 1941 conducted conference to Soviet scientist about creation A-bomb. At that time it was once understandable, as A-bomb must be arranged. Germany had sufficiently scientists to carry out scientific aspect of the project. There were in Germany and researchers of the first star value as Heisenberg. However, development scientific aspect of the project does not realizing entire project. If we now grant to Zimbvabve complete technical documentation on the production of A-bomb, then during many decades this country will not be able to carry out similar project since it does not have the necessary resources. Similar to Zimbvabve Germany in 1940th could not carry out this project. The country which imports mercury from Japan and brings it by U-boats and which havn\'t zinc for the production of Iron Crosses cannot hope for the realization of such difficult technical project. Time necessary for the creation A-bomb is directly connected with the presence of resources and the level of development of technology. In 1938 USSR was the second country in the world by the volume of industrial production. During 2WW in the USSR was built more tanks, aircraft, guns etc. than in Germany. However, the level of industrial production in the USSR was approximately 50% of the level of the USA. For this reason USA created the A-bomb in 1945, USSR in 1949, Great Britain in 1956. With quite good conditions Germany could not create the A-bomb earlier than Great Britain. Sooner it would succeed in making this 5-10 years after Great Britain and only in a case of peace. Problems is not in Jews!
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Hitler can not actually forecast events when was made decision about the attack to Russia. If he was ralistic politician, then he had to understand, that Russia is not Luxemburg and even is not France. He mast to understand, that Russia is powerful country which exceeds Germany on the level of industrial production, on the level of human and natural resources. German Army could not monitor many areas in Russia and there peoples lived on the Soviet laws. In order to fight with patriots at such territories it was necessary to send there troops. By this front was considerably weakened.
Let us assume that Germany occupied the territory of Russia up to the Urals. For each 5-10 thousand people it is necessary to organize kommendature. In each kommendature must be minimum 2-3 military interpreter. It is easy to calculate, that Germany did not have so many military interpreters for conduction of the occupational regime. After occupation of Russia German Army mast maintenance there occupational regime and could not resist to Allies Armies. Germany could only by blitzkrieg frighten management of the USSR and force to capitulate. Without having carried out this task to the end 1941 Germany mast be recognize its defeat. Sooner or later the defeat of Germany was unavoidable.
Hitler thinked, that in proportion to the occupation of the territory of Russia he will acquire increasingly more natural and other resources. Practice showed the inaccuracy of his hopes. Germany could not organize in Russia industrial production, output of natural resources and production of food. This was connected with the hostility to the Russians and the policy of genocide. Under such conditions war with Russia lost any meaning. The continuation of war created new problems and could not solve the old problems of Germany. It is amazing that Hitler could not understand such simple things.
Regards,
Yuri IL\'IN
Moscow Russia
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SuperKraut wrote:
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The American atomic bomb in 1945 is Hitler\'s own fault. If he had not persecuted the Jewish Germans, the people who got Roosevelt to start the Manhattan project would not have left Europe. His continued persecution of the Jewish Germans and his total mismanagement of science policy prevented the German bomb.
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It seems to me that this is not correct. I heard the point of view many times, that the USA constructed A-bomb because of the Jews. This is certain not correct. Creation A-bomb is difficult project. It includes scientific, engineering and technological parts. Many scientist even before 2WW was clear that the A-bomb can be created. It was understandable as A-bomb must be arranged. This was clearly for scientist of many as big and little nations. Stalin in 1941 conducted conference to Soviet scientist about creation A-bomb. At that time it was once understandable, as A-bomb must be arranged. Germany had sufficiently scientists to carry out scientific aspect of the project. There were in Germany and researchers of the first star value as Heisenberg. However, development scientific aspect of the project does not realizing entire project. If we now grant to Zimbvabve complete technical documentation on the production of A-bomb, then during many decades this country will not be able to carry out similar project since it does not have the necessary resources. Similar to Zimbvabve Germany in 1940th could not carry out this project. The country which imports mercury from Japan and brings it by U-boats and which havn\'t zinc for the production of Iron Crosses cannot hope for the realization of such difficult technical project. Time necessary for the creation A-bomb is directly connected with the presence of resources and the level of development of technology. In 1938 USSR was the second country in the world by the volume of industrial production. During 2WW in the USSR was built more tanks, aircraft, guns etc. than in Germany. However, the level of industrial production in the USSR was approximately 50% of the level of the USA. For this reason USA created the A-bomb in 1945, USSR in 1949, Great Britain in 1956. With quite good conditions Germany could not create the A-bomb earlier than Great Britain. Sooner it would succeed in making this 5-10 years after Great Britain and only in a case of peace. Problems is not in Jews!
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Hitler can not actually forecast events when was made decision about the attack to Russia. If he was ralistic politician, then he had to understand, that Russia is not Luxemburg and even is not France. He mast to understand, that Russia is powerful country which exceeds Germany on the level of industrial production, on the level of human and natural resources. German Army could not monitor many areas in Russia and there peoples lived on the Soviet laws. In order to fight with patriots at such territories it was necessary to send there troops. By this front was considerably weakened.
Let us assume that Germany occupied the territory of Russia up to the Urals. For each 5-10 thousand people it is necessary to organize kommendature. In each kommendature must be minimum 2-3 military interpreter. It is easy to calculate, that Germany did not have so many military interpreters for conduction of the occupational regime. After occupation of Russia German Army mast maintenance there occupational regime and could not resist to Allies Armies. Germany could only by blitzkrieg frighten management of the USSR and force to capitulate. Without having carried out this task to the end 1941 Germany mast be recognize its defeat. Sooner or later the defeat of Germany was unavoidable.
Hitler thinked, that in proportion to the occupation of the territory of Russia he will acquire increasingly more natural and other resources. Practice showed the inaccuracy of his hopes. Germany could not organize in Russia industrial production, output of natural resources and production of food. This was connected with the hostility to the Russians and the policy of genocide. Under such conditions war with Russia lost any meaning. The continuation of war created new problems and could not solve the old problems of Germany. It is amazing that Hitler could not understand such simple things.
Regards,
Yuri IL\'IN
Moscow Russia
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