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RE: As I see it..
Posted by: MPC ()
Date: August 22, 2001 09:09PM

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Kaptiänleutnant Hartmut Graf von Matuschka, Freiherr von Toppolczan und Spaetgen.

A Kptlt in the Kriegsmarine a rank which he obtained through promotion.
Hartmut was his Christian name given by his parents.

He was Graf (Count) von (of) Matuschka and

Freiherr (Baron) von (of) Toppolczan und Spaetgen.

Had he any male siblings they would also have had the same titles because in Germany if a Graf von ....... has two sons they are both Graf von ....... whereas in England it is only the eldest son and then only upon his fathers death.

There were a number of German naval officers in both wars that were of the German nobility even Princes of the Royal Family - but more of that another time.

Hope this helps
Regards
MPC

PS Walter An Earl ranks higher than a Baron they are not the same. Freiherr (Baron) is the lowest order of German nobility. Even lower are those entitled to use the title \"von\" as in von Bodelschwingh. Even they were, years ago regarded as a sort of upper-middle/middle class in society
The \"v\" should always be used with a small letter \"von or v.\" (not as I have seen in some American publications \"Von\" and, alphabetically the name after should be given followed by the \"von\" they should not be listed between \"U\" and \"W\")
Best wishes
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Subject Written By Posted
Translation please Tom Iwanski 08/22/2001 08:01PM
RE: Translation please walter M 08/22/2001 08:31PM
RE: As I see it.. MPC 08/22/2001 09:09PM
RE: As I see it.. walter M 08/22/2001 09:20PM
RE: As I see it.. MPC 08/23/2001 07:25AM
RE: As I see it.. walter M 08/23/2001 12:10PM
RE: Translation please Tom Iwanski 08/23/2001 02:45PM
RE: Translation please walter M 08/23/2001 03:38PM
RE: Translation please Yuri IL\'IN 08/23/2001 05:20PM
RE: Translation please MPC 08/23/2001 06:40PM
RE: Translation please Tom Iwanski 08/23/2001 09:17PM
RE: Translation please Vaclav Samsa 08/24/2001 01:38AM


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