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Das Boot - Thomsen's Character - Book and Film
Posted by:
Jean-Noël Muller
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Date: March 04, 2007 07:05PM
Good evening to everybody !
In movie, during the introducing scenes at "Bar Royal", KL Philipp Thomsen, completely drunk after his return from a difficult patrol and the official remittance of his KC, delivers himself at the microphone a very politically incorrect and rude speech about AH capabilities, as well as jokes about his chastity and teetotaler.In the book, same speech is supposed to have been issued by KL Trumann to his colleague Thomsen, but using toilet brush as a mike...Perhaps introduction of a toilet brush in a movie is difficult, but some other scenes in Bar Royal's toilets are quite explicit.
To make it short, who could have been Thomsen's model ? I was more or less thinking about Teddy Suhren or his good friend Otto Salman, but dates are not matching with described patrol of U-96, which in addition was not affected to the same Flotille.
Anyhow, it's true that LGB has taken some liberties with history, as stated by himself in "Das Boot" foreword, and it's always the novelist's freedom.Only one example : He describes the accidental demise of KL Mutzelburg,under the name of KL Mönkenberg...Here also, dates are not matching.
Thanks in advance for your comments/remarks.
Danke im Voraus.
Jean-Noël
In movie, during the introducing scenes at "Bar Royal", KL Philipp Thomsen, completely drunk after his return from a difficult patrol and the official remittance of his KC, delivers himself at the microphone a very politically incorrect and rude speech about AH capabilities, as well as jokes about his chastity and teetotaler.In the book, same speech is supposed to have been issued by KL Trumann to his colleague Thomsen, but using toilet brush as a mike...Perhaps introduction of a toilet brush in a movie is difficult, but some other scenes in Bar Royal's toilets are quite explicit.
To make it short, who could have been Thomsen's model ? I was more or less thinking about Teddy Suhren or his good friend Otto Salman, but dates are not matching with described patrol of U-96, which in addition was not affected to the same Flotille.
Anyhow, it's true that LGB has taken some liberties with history, as stated by himself in "Das Boot" foreword, and it's always the novelist's freedom.Only one example : He describes the accidental demise of KL Mutzelburg,under the name of KL Mönkenberg...Here also, dates are not matching.
Thanks in advance for your comments/remarks.
Danke im Voraus.
Jean-Noël