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Re: U-571
Posted by:
Ken Dunn
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Date: December 10, 2003 12:49AM
<HTML>Hi Robert and J.T.,
I had that same experience with the U-571 movie. Some of my friends did come to me saying they liked it and then asked me what I thought of it. We in America are so media oriented we tend to believe almost anything we see in a movie or read in a book or paper if it is anything like something we have heard before. I am sure I do it too but in this case I happened to have studied it for a while and am not completely uninformed.
You are absolutely right about that movie being the history lesson for the day for many that saw it too. This is one of the things that make uboat.net and this forum so important. Young people today get much of their information from the Internet. We owe it to them to provide the best information we can so they can tell the difference between fact and fiction.
I find nothing wrong with fiction mind you and I especially like science fiction. I just don’t like it when they make fiction look like fact at the expense of the U-boat men and their families as they did in the U-571 movie. I just hope it was done out of ignorance and that the same people won’t do it again.
The Pearl Harbor movie was also a travesty as far as I am concerned. It would have been much better if it had been historically accurate and they had left out the love story. The love story had to be there just to sell tickets to women as it sure had nothing to do with the real story but it made money and Hollywood is a prostitute – they will do anything for money. What they didn’t realize is that most men I know would have paid extra to have it left out. Perhaps one day movies will at least be interactive enough that we can choose to leave out the parts we don’t want to see. We will have to pay for them anyway but at least we won’t have to suffer through them. More than one of my former favorite TV shows has gotten caught up in the same kind of thing and I have stopped watching them as a result. Some I still watch I always record first so I can fast forward through that crap but I still resent having to do so.
As usual some of my friends came to me about the Pearl Harbor movie, said they liked it and asked my opinion. Needless to say I gave it. It wasn’t historically accurate but I would have possibly considered it entertainment if they had left all of that out. As it was I was forced to sit through it to get to the parts I was interested in (only to be disappointed yet again) and I got to pay for it in the bargain.
We could make historically accurate movies about Pearl Harbor and U-boats being captured, as the real stories are more than interesting and exciting enough to sell tickets. We could also make much better fictional movies about those events that would sell tickets without insulting the men and their families that participated in the real events if we wanted to.
I am just sick and tired of seeing these movies presented in a way to make the uninformed (and we are all uninformed about some things)think they are historically accurate when they aren’t. Way too many of us are willing to trust that they are accurate, especially the young. It is cheaper and easier to make things up than to research the real events and for Hollywood in the end it is all about money - never mind what our kids "learn" from it or at whose expense it comes at.
Regards,
Ken Dunn</HTML>
I had that same experience with the U-571 movie. Some of my friends did come to me saying they liked it and then asked me what I thought of it. We in America are so media oriented we tend to believe almost anything we see in a movie or read in a book or paper if it is anything like something we have heard before. I am sure I do it too but in this case I happened to have studied it for a while and am not completely uninformed.
You are absolutely right about that movie being the history lesson for the day for many that saw it too. This is one of the things that make uboat.net and this forum so important. Young people today get much of their information from the Internet. We owe it to them to provide the best information we can so they can tell the difference between fact and fiction.
I find nothing wrong with fiction mind you and I especially like science fiction. I just don’t like it when they make fiction look like fact at the expense of the U-boat men and their families as they did in the U-571 movie. I just hope it was done out of ignorance and that the same people won’t do it again.
The Pearl Harbor movie was also a travesty as far as I am concerned. It would have been much better if it had been historically accurate and they had left out the love story. The love story had to be there just to sell tickets to women as it sure had nothing to do with the real story but it made money and Hollywood is a prostitute – they will do anything for money. What they didn’t realize is that most men I know would have paid extra to have it left out. Perhaps one day movies will at least be interactive enough that we can choose to leave out the parts we don’t want to see. We will have to pay for them anyway but at least we won’t have to suffer through them. More than one of my former favorite TV shows has gotten caught up in the same kind of thing and I have stopped watching them as a result. Some I still watch I always record first so I can fast forward through that crap but I still resent having to do so.
As usual some of my friends came to me about the Pearl Harbor movie, said they liked it and asked my opinion. Needless to say I gave it. It wasn’t historically accurate but I would have possibly considered it entertainment if they had left all of that out. As it was I was forced to sit through it to get to the parts I was interested in (only to be disappointed yet again) and I got to pay for it in the bargain.
We could make historically accurate movies about Pearl Harbor and U-boats being captured, as the real stories are more than interesting and exciting enough to sell tickets. We could also make much better fictional movies about those events that would sell tickets without insulting the men and their families that participated in the real events if we wanted to.
I am just sick and tired of seeing these movies presented in a way to make the uninformed (and we are all uninformed about some things)think they are historically accurate when they aren’t. Way too many of us are willing to trust that they are accurate, especially the young. It is cheaper and easier to make things up than to research the real events and for Hollywood in the end it is all about money - never mind what our kids "learn" from it or at whose expense it comes at.
Regards,
Ken Dunn</HTML>
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