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Re: Das Boot
Posted by:
Meg Rosenfeld
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Date: January 20, 2004 07:19PM
<HTML>Hi Feargal,
Sorry you got the response you did. Your question may be old hat to lots of people, but it's new to you, and you deserve at the very least a polite answer. As someone who's read the book a few times (both in English and in German) and has seen the director's cut DVD and two videotapes of the TV version (one in German with no subtitles, one dubbed in rather ridiculous English) many times (are we talking about fanaticism here?)all I can say is that both the book and the film are, in my opinion, masterpieces of their kind, but of course they are different.
Have you read the book and/or seen one or more versions of the movie? If neither, I think I would recommend the director's cut, or TV version if you can get it, first. That way, when you read the book you can picture the characters and their surroundings. At least, this is the order in which I did it and it really worked for me.
Of course, the characters aren't quite the same from one medium to the other. In particular, "Leutnant Werner" in the film is a very naive young man with, apparently, no previous experience of being out at sea on a navy vessel, let alone the special circumstances of a U-Boot. Leutnant Buchheim, the author and narrator of the book, was on his first U-Boot patrol, but had been out on other kinds of navy vessels, and was altogether a tougher customer than his film counterpart. The other major characters in the movie aren't so different in the book (or, I believe, in real life.) As you probably know, the story is based on a real patrol made by real men, and only a few plot elements are changed for artistic reasons. Buchheim himself was very satisfied with film actor Jürgen Prochnow's portrayal of Kapitän-Leutnant Lehmann-Willenbrock, and if you ever have a chance to see a photograph of Chief Engineer ("LI") Fritz Grade, you'll be amazed at how like him actor Klaus Wennemann was. In fact, director Wolfgang Petersen went out of his way to find young actors who resembled the photographs the young Buchheim had taken of the crew of the real U96.
Some readers find Buchheim's descriptions of the sea, the weather, the crew, etc., to be unbearably boring--personally I find them wonderful--but you can always skip over them in reading.
So, if this will be your first time, I hope you enjoy the book and the movie, in whatever order; and if, on the other hand, you know them both by heart and want to debate with someone else who does, if no-one else writes back, there's always me!
Regards,
Meg</HTML>
Sorry you got the response you did. Your question may be old hat to lots of people, but it's new to you, and you deserve at the very least a polite answer. As someone who's read the book a few times (both in English and in German) and has seen the director's cut DVD and two videotapes of the TV version (one in German with no subtitles, one dubbed in rather ridiculous English) many times (are we talking about fanaticism here?)all I can say is that both the book and the film are, in my opinion, masterpieces of their kind, but of course they are different.
Have you read the book and/or seen one or more versions of the movie? If neither, I think I would recommend the director's cut, or TV version if you can get it, first. That way, when you read the book you can picture the characters and their surroundings. At least, this is the order in which I did it and it really worked for me.
Of course, the characters aren't quite the same from one medium to the other. In particular, "Leutnant Werner" in the film is a very naive young man with, apparently, no previous experience of being out at sea on a navy vessel, let alone the special circumstances of a U-Boot. Leutnant Buchheim, the author and narrator of the book, was on his first U-Boot patrol, but had been out on other kinds of navy vessels, and was altogether a tougher customer than his film counterpart. The other major characters in the movie aren't so different in the book (or, I believe, in real life.) As you probably know, the story is based on a real patrol made by real men, and only a few plot elements are changed for artistic reasons. Buchheim himself was very satisfied with film actor Jürgen Prochnow's portrayal of Kapitän-Leutnant Lehmann-Willenbrock, and if you ever have a chance to see a photograph of Chief Engineer ("LI") Fritz Grade, you'll be amazed at how like him actor Klaus Wennemann was. In fact, director Wolfgang Petersen went out of his way to find young actors who resembled the photographs the young Buchheim had taken of the crew of the real U96.
Some readers find Buchheim's descriptions of the sea, the weather, the crew, etc., to be unbearably boring--personally I find them wonderful--but you can always skip over them in reading.
So, if this will be your first time, I hope you enjoy the book and the movie, in whatever order; and if, on the other hand, you know them both by heart and want to debate with someone else who does, if no-one else writes back, there's always me!
Regards,
Meg</HTML>
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