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10 years ago
Ron Young
POLLEON, ex LEONORA
Date of loss: 22 March 1918
Depth: 39m
Reference: 55 01’.683 N 001 18’.968 W
Location: 3.10-n.miles ENE of South Shields lighthouse
The POLLEON (Official No.140433) was a steel-hulled 1,155-ton British steam cargo ship that measured: 70.1m in length, an 8.83m-beam and a 4.78m-draught. Wilton’s Engineering & Slipway Co., at Rotterdam in the Netherlands built and comp
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13 years ago
Ron Young
Hello Ian
As you say there are two other wrecks reasonably close by; the Danish SS Harriet of 1,372-tons which was carrying 1,075 tons of Esparto grass but this wreck is quite large. the other one is believed to be the 303-ton steam trawler Khartoum
Harriet lies at 51 53'.291'N 001 46'.647'E
Cheers Ron
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13 years ago
Ron Young
Can anyone tell me what the Speer Flotilla - Wiking, Norway mean in WW2 please?
Cheers Ron
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13 years ago
Ron Young
Hello David
If no one can help you on this forum, try
[1914-1918.invisionzone.com]
Because there is a couple of people there that can probably help with his details
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
Hello Clio
A very fishy tale The area around Fastnet is not a place you would normally find man-eating sharks, however there are still plenty of sharks about. Sharks don't normally attack humans for food until the water temerature reaches tropical standards, plus open water sharks usually hunt by themselves. Even the North Sea has big sharks in it and many of those would be man-eaters in
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14 years ago
Ron Young
Hi Guys, just out of interest:
There was a QUILLOTA, ex BRAHMIN wrecked off Sunderland on 12 November 1901
Final voyage:
Captain at time of loss was Celestine Delapine who survived with five other crewmen, one of whom was called Yves Julon. The ship had been trading between South America and France, but on this voyage, had left Nantes in ballast on the 29th October 1901, bound for North Shie
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14 years ago
Ron Young
9. Re: UB-118
Thanks Mustafa,
I will remember that for the future
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
10. Re: UB-118
Date of loss: 21 November 1920
Depth: 60m
Reference: 50 09’.905 N 04 43’.145 W
Location: 4-miles S by E of Dodman Point
Final patrol:
On 21 November 1920, UB 118 was towed from Devonport to a breaker’s yard at Falmouth, but it was alleged that valves in the fore-ends failed to work, which made her impossible to handle in the choppy seas. Eventually the sloop HMS KENNET sank her with
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14 years ago
Ron Young
11. Re: SUBS
Check out the YD forum at
Cheers Ron
Also your last post about U 121, there dosn't appear to have been a U 121 in WWI
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14 years ago
Ron Young
Thank Freddy
Lets hope everyone has a lovely Christmas holiday and a better New Year
Cheers Ron
from Newcastle, England
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14 years ago
Ron Young
Thank Michael
I will add them to my files, much appreciated
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
I note that three men were lost according to Tennet, but I can only find one in my database: TSUMAGARI, N. Samali Quartermaster MM SS Harpagus (London) drowned 9.5.17
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
Hello Freddy
If the crew had been lost I could have given you all of the names, but it appears that no one was lost on the Philomel
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
16. Re: HMS Primula
Here are the three guys lost:
ARCHER, Frederick A, Boy 1c, J 27167, Primula, 1 March 1916, ship lost
KEMP, Ernest C, Able Seaman, J 16643 (Ch), Primula, 1 March 1916, ship lost
MINTER, Arthur H, Leading Seaman, J 905 (Ch), Primula, 1 March 1916, ship lost
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
The full story and history of HM S/M H5 and her sinking will be in Volume Three of Silent Warriors which uses all primary sources, first hand accounts that have never been published before, or seen the light of day. However that is just one submarine, there are at least twenty more in this volume, amounting around 300 pages.
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
Hi Guys
On 12th September 1917, HM S/M D7 attacked and sunk U 45; at 1455hrs D7 also spotted and carried out an abortive attack on a second U-boat -
Does anyone know which U-boat that was please ?
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
Pantryman GEORGE HENRY SMITH
H.M.H.S. "Llandovery Castle" (London), Mercantile Marine
who died age 42
on 27 June 1918
Son of William and Mary Ann Smith; husband of Bessie Ada Smith (nee Stovold), of 72, Beresford St., Camberwell, London. Born at Pimlico, London.
Remembered with honour
Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
Hello Jeannie
He is in the CWGC files and is one of the crewmen, not a passenger: Smith, George Henry, 1st Pantrymn
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
Hello Joseph
The 124-ton sailing vessel Hawanee was sunk on 8 October 1918, 350-miles W (true) of Cape Finisterre, while sailing from Oporto to Newfoundland, but I don't think it was by U 157 (Ortwin Rave), because the last sunk by her and him was on 22 September 1918.
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
It may or may not have been a gentlemanly action of the U-boat commander Hans Rose in towing the lifeboats with the crew towards shore, but it was more likely that Hans Rose had realised he had attacked an American and neutral ship which could have brought the USA into the war, so he played safe
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
A bit more about the steamer:
The HOUSATONIC (3,143-tons) was completed as Yard No.365 by Barclay, Curle & Co., Ltd., Glasgow in January 1891 and launched as the PICKHUBEN on 13 November 1890 for Dampfschiffs. - Rhederei "Hansa", Hamburg, Germany and measured: 331.0 x 41.1
1895 she was renamed GEORGIA by new owners Hamburg-Amerika Linie, Hamburg
1915 she was renamed HOUSATONIC
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14 years ago
Ron Young
25. Re: U80
Hello Michael, this may interest you
[1914-1918.invisionzone.com]
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
Hi Keith
I don't know the answer, the list if from my WWI crew loss database, which is fairly comprehensive. The Stonecrop was lost the same day as HMS Contest.
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
Here is the crew list:
AYRES, Ernest A, Ty/Engineer Sub Lieutenant, RNR, Stonecrop, 18 September 1917, ship lost
BLAKELY, George A J, Able Seaman, 240007 (Po), Stonecrop, 18 September 1917, ship lost
CLARK, Fred, Leading Seaman, 230471 (Po), Stonecrop, 18 September 1917, ship lost
CLARK, John, Ordinary Seaman, J 66434 (Po), Stonecrop, 18 September 1917, ship lost
CLARKE, William H E, Armou
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14 years ago
Ron Young
The Queenborough was owned by Consolidated Steam Fishing & Ice Co and she carried no gun or DAMS gunners, so by all accounts she was fishing.
She also carried nine men, not eight as I stated earlier:
ALLAN, John Skipper MM Queenborough (Grimsby) drowned 21.3.17
COLLETT, Charles Trimmer MM Steam Trawler Queenborough (Grimsby) drowned 21.3.17
CROSSMAN, Samuel Carter 2nd Engineer MM Steam
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14 years ago
Ron Young
I found eight men lost with the Queenborough and all were merchant marine seamen
Cheers Ron
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14 years ago
Ron Young
Snackeboo
You can read about it in the forth-coming book Silent Warriors Volume 3, published by The History Press. All of the facts are in there taken from primary sources and witness statements.
Cheers Ron
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