Hello, seems to be the french ARIANE, sunk by UC 22 in 1917: Oliver
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Hello, you will find a ton of information on BRANLE-BAS in the magnificent french forum: And of course, here's the "right" victim: So, it was "just" a Drifter (Patrouilleur auxiliaire), not a Torpedoboat. But, well, in the night all cats are grey :-) Oliver
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Well, I would say, IF really an German submarine laid mine was the reason for G 7's loss, than it should be the field lait by U 78 on Sept. 27th, 1918. Fields from UC 59 are at least positioned from 1°29,8'W or even farther West which seems to me to be outside Farnes Deep. The field from U 78, consisting of 34 mines (which had no time-setting) are laid in an zig-zag-line from:
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Sorry for my ignorance, but someone can point me to the location of "Farnes Deep"? It's not that easy to get an answer from Google or GoogleEarth!? :-) Oliver
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Hello, this here from my colleague Wolfgang Göthling as to the sinking of POLLUX by UC 45, based on norwegian sources: N D POLLUX (1196 BRT) (Kpt. Einar A. Sivertsen) aus Bergen, seit dem 17.03.1917 auf dem Weg von Newcastle u. T. nach Bergen mit 900 tons Sulphat, 250 tons Stückgut und 20 Passagieren (Überlebende versenkter norweg. Handelsschiffe, Frauen und Kinder), wird am 19.03.1917
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Hello Jan, here's something from Wolfgang Göthling as to the sinking of HELGE, collected from various sources: HELGE Bau: Frachtdampfer / 1877 bei William Gray & Co. Ltd., West Hartlepool (BN 173) Tonnage: 1155 BRT / 839 NRT Besatzung: 15 Männer + 2 Frauen = 17 Mann - 16 Schweden, 1 Norweger Reederei: AB H. Unér (Robert Göhle), Norrköping Ereignis: 26.08.1918 + T &qu
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Hello Jan, please find attached the summary of events on HAMMAR II colleted by my colleage Wolfgang Göthling from varioius sources: HAMMAR II Bau: Frachtddampfer / 1912 bei Gustaf Groth, Sjötorp Tonnage: 206 BRT / 118 NRT / 260 tdw Besatzung: 11 Mann Reederei: Rederi AB Ferleff (Anders Roger Smith), Uddevalla Ereignis: 06.09.1917 + S "UB 62" (Kaptlt. Bernhard Putzie
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Joe, as Michael wrote, some of the vessels listed in LWL for sure where NOT damaged, so the fact that ANTINOUS is listed by Lloyds isn't any proof that this was the case on 01.09.1916 (not 02.09., see below). BUT (Michael): TNA records show that indeed ANTINOUS received one hit from U 38's deck gun, but of course continued her way ... ANTINOUS (Cpt. Fishwick), voyage Torre Ann
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Hello, this was U 33, fire was opened by SILVER SHELL, U 33 replied. Shots from SILVER SHELL all short, but some very near the U-Boat. As Kptlt. Gansser has to deal with a heavy swell and as the sun was going down at 8.45 p.m. broke off the action. Of course: No hit on U 33 :-) Oliver
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Hm, well, this case isn't easy, as far as I can say: 1) french seaplane DD D.46 (Favier) with biplanes Henriot D.30 (Salaun), D.34 (Vroman) and D.38 (Schmidt) in the forenoon saw a "large submarine" going WSW, 25 miles North of Dunkerque at 51.30N, 2.20E. Two Bombs (52 kilogr.) dropped by D.46, one of them a dud, machinegun fire from all four planes. 2) british bombers A.7846
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Hello, so, the difficulties for maintaining the German subs in the Med are obvious, as described by Chris. Old boats, much used, well, that's it! As for the two torpedo attacks of U 35 on the way home: 22.09.1918 at 23:45, South-West of Cabo Sao Vicente: One of the 18 steamers within Convoy O.F. 51 (USS Algonquin, HMT William Hutchinson, Newland, John Haile), not identified by me,
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Damn, I have to correct myself :-) U 35 on 10.08.1918 went out with U 47, right, but not to go back to Germany but for an ordinary patrol. She was ordered back to Germany just after doing good the defects and went out on 07.09.1918 ... And to answer the starting question of Nom Anor: Ernst von Voigt took over U 35 from de la Perriere, but the boat was overhauled from the end of March unt
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Ahm, I have to made some corrections here, I think. Erich Gerth went out with U 47 on 10.08.1918, together with U 35 and destroyer TURUL (from Bocca di Cattaro), intent was to bring the boat back to Germany. U 47 just went as far as the North-East of Bari, but have to abort the voyage on midday 11.08.1918 because of some defects, and reached Pola (via Spalato) on 14.08.1918. U 35 (as men
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Hi, I have a note that this actually was UC 75 (Lohs), which broke off the first engagement which started at 11.35 a.m. German time and started an second one at 12 a.m. - So not two but one U-Boat and no hit from LOTHBURY. I have no more details yet as I have just "seen" the war diary of that boat :-) Oliver
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Sirs, I should give an update to this "old case", mystery still not solved, but ... 28. Sept. 1917 BEGONIA left Queenstown together with outward Convoy O.Q. 10 28. Sept. 1917 3 a.m. BEGONIA reported position as 50°00'N, 08°05'W (65 miles W of Scillies) 2. Oct. 1917 6.15 a.m. BEGIONA is reported seen in 48°45'N, 09°55'W (192 miles 277° from Ouessant) - bu
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Hi, my notes from U 50's KTB say that the gave 52°00'N,13°38'W as position which roughly is (according to GoogleEarth) = 155 miles 285° from Fastnet Rock I think there is no position apart from that within the KTB. Oliver
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Hi Chris, hm, I'm no speaker of the French language, but the logbook of DUNOIS reads a little more "unexcited". see here: Than go to page 746 Oliver
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Well, the war diary (Kriegstagebuch / KT is not what it sounds like, an continued diary. To be true each U-boat after return from an patrol had to made an report in several copies. At the Admiralstab these reports where compiled and filed for each boat, and the time between the patrols (mainly periods of overhaul) where filled up with small pieces of paper to establish the whereabout of thi
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Hello T.F. ... I didn't expect an German U-Boat as the agent for C 25's loss. The shot down or even firing of the deckgun against an Airship of course would have been reported. The only missing boat is UB 107 but that operated to far to the South of the position in question. From an english language book I know that C 25 (Hopperton) went out in search of an reported German U
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Simon, Martin, hm, I would tend to say, that Kptlt. Hartwig opened fire at 4000 metres range but maybe continued firing at the steamer while crew was leaving the ship. In many instances that was the case. Only after they were far enough he closed the steamer and finished his job, still using his guns. His text in the KTB (war diary) is not clear enough for me, but probably it went just like
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Hi Martin, yes, you are right. And yes, the Germans in every case tried to get information from the survivors as of the name of the ship, tonnage, cargo and voyage etc. This was requested by HQ in order to get an as good as possible picture of the results of the "Handelskrieg" ! Oliver
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Hi Martin, well, I would say, it's not very likely that casualties were caused by the Trawlers fire. Usually, from other instances I know, at extreme range shots falling very short, it was more an matter of morale matter My opinion in this case (as in several others): The U-boat opened fire to finish up the steamer but lifeboats still near the vessel, so splinters from the shells caus
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Trawlers where HMT RAETIA and HMT BERMUDA ... Oliver
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Hello Chris, ah, very well, obviously this is an very, very intersting sidenote of the Great War. Not easy to research, but ... :-) Oliver
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Hello Chris, well done. Hope you will get some reliable response in time for your visit. Just in case you don't know, three men from UC 61 died during captivity, you can find their names and the dates here: Oliver
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Hi Joe, according to this website their names should be mentioned, among others killed by accidents etc. This listing here are the men which died by illness etc.: This is the main listing, you can search by boat number: Oliver
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Hi Chris, I would try this formum It's very useful with regard to research to U-Boat activities and I'm sure also the people in the right section (maybe "service santé") of this forum will be very helpful ... Oliver
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Hi, from the british Archives the position of the sinking was: 2 sm SSW Porquerolles LT The crew was rescued by an french torpedoboat (no name given). I have no copies from that statement, time of sinking was August 4th, 11:15 h Oliver
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Hi Hermes, well, Wolfgang Göthling provided me with the information from the KTB of UC 38, which gave the position as = 42° 11 N / 11° 22 E But the norwegian "Sjoeforklaringer over krigsforliste norske skibe 1917", page 172, gave the position as = 42° 16 N / 11° 18 E So, good hunting :-) Oliver
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Hi Michael, I have to say thanks from Wolfgang for that link. It's an good start to look for the tonnage of the vessels and the owners. But the port registration numbers also of interest, so any contribution on that still very welcome :-) Oliver
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