Hi Mike, !. I haven't trusted the USN since the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution in 1964! 2. My Source is the Commerce Department not the US NAVY. 3. Again 3 vessels named ON TIME are listed thru June 1918. In list June 1919 only two (2) appear and would be in port. 4. /catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/007919581 5. Both of us know newspapers are a poor source. Joe
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Upon further research: There were (3) fishing vessels listed in the New England area for June 30 1917 thru June 30 1918. One is missing from the list June 30 1918 thru June 30 1919. ON210974 ON TIME 8 tons gross built 1912,Osterville, Mass with home port as Vineyard Haven, MASS. A KTB can contain errors. Not keeping track of boats that are being sunk is not unusual. See U57 Scarb
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A few more; Gotttfried Bartholdy Died 31 Dec 1947 Eugen von Beulwitz Died 24 Dec 1969 Alfred Gotze Died 3 Nov 1954 Otto Kumpel Died 19 Sep 1935 in Hamburg Helmut Lorenz Died 3 Mar 1970 Freiher Nikolaus von Lyncker Died 22 May 1945 in USSR Helmuth von Rabenau Died 18 Dec 1970 Gunther Sperling Died 12 Mar 1956 Freiherr Ernst vo
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Welcome to the forum John, Q-Ship Westphalia serving as CULLIST torpedoed and sunk in the Irish Sea 11 Feb. 1918 by U97. 43 men dead, 2 taken as POW. Respectfully, Joe R
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Thanks for confirming, Simon. Perhaps someone should notify Denkmalprojekt.org that they are one name short re: the accidental drownings on U54? Respectfully, Joe R
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On the above date, U54 was battered by high waves and three men were washed overboard and drowned. Bei der Drehung werden durch eine überkommende starke Welle der 1. Wachoffizier Oberleutnant z. S. Jobst Lehmann, der Bootsmannsmaat Adolf Wächter und der Matrose Willy Buttkus über Bord gespült und ertrinken. The above site lists Lehmann and Buttkus but does not list Adolf Wachter. Ho
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Hi Chris, Three SCHWERDTFEGERs served in the German Navy during WW1. Hans: Korvettenkapitan Herman: Kapitanleutnant Paul: Kapitanleutnant None of the 3 commanded a uboat but may have served on a boat in another copacity eg. inspector, pilot, etc.. Respectfully, Joe R
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Danke Simon. VOLKHARD should be changed to VOLKBERT in our commander listing. Also found this: Simon thanks again for confirming. Joe
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Which is correct? K/L VOLBERT FREIHEER von BOTHMER or K/L FREIHEER VOLKHARD von BOTHMER ? Respectfully, Joe R
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E5 earned one success sinking Sperrbrecher II 3075/90 ex Venetia ex Amazonas on 29 Sept 1915 by torpedo. May be of interest to someone. Respectfully, Joe R
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Martin, Kurt Hartwig's name does not appear on the list of war criminals published by Great Britain post armistice. Among those named Patzig, Gansser, Rucker and many more. Again, Hartwig is not listed. Respectfully, Joe R
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Thank-you Oliver, I looked for UB84 in the main listing, search by boat number. UB84 does not appear. However, their names are listed in killed by accident. I looked in the wrong list. Thanks again, Joe R
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Hello Guys and Gals, Does anyone know why the names of the dead sailors from UB84 killed in the collision with SOLINGEN are not on the memorial at Moltenort? Respectfully, Joe R
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Hey Guys, The silence is deafening. Who has a legitimate objection? Perhaps the Commanders List should become the Uboat Officers Listing?? Joe
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I'm very grateful for your reply Simon. I know it took some time to look up. Thanks again. Your post also reconfirms a post by Jorn in the commanders list- ing thread that follows here. Re: Commander listing Posted by: Jörn () Date: June 27, 2012 03:40PM ello Joseph Here is what I have on him: 21-08-1885. Born in Neubrück -04-1903. Joined the navy Torpedoboot V159
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Thank-you Simon, I believe all but two of the names on the list commanded other boats and are listed on the Commanders List on Uboat net. Did Bruno Krumhaar and Erich Metzenthin command U3 and if so When? Thanks again Joe
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Is the list of U3 commanders correct on the following site? Respectfully, Joe R
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Oblt Fritz Lamprecht commander of UB100: NO PATROLS, NO SUCCESSES This one off the top of my head. I'm certain there are more. Respectfully, Joe R
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Thanks Oliver, You don't have to carry out a war patrol to make the commander listing. Some on the list never carried out a patrol but were named commander while being refurbished. How ever he did at least one war patrol on U52. I'm surprised that you haven't tried to contact his grandson. Easier for you to do than me here in the USA, He would know if his grand fath
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Thank-you Simon, For a bit there,I thought I was the only one standing for Ciliax. Maybe Michael can tell us why he has been omitted, when CLEARLY; he commanded UB96 and UC27. Joe R .
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Perhaps we should honor Admiral Ciliax by including him in the Commander List. Respectfully, Joe R
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I will rephrase the question. Any one have proof that Otto Ciliac should not be on the commanders listing? Joe R
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Welcome to the forum Claus, Yes, 1906 is incorrect. It is a common mistake usually referred to as a typo, such as pushing the number zero key when meaning to push the number one key. But of course, you knew that, because von Arnauld's first patrol in the Med. didn't take place till 1916! Again welcome, Respectfully, Joe R
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Hi Guys, Otto Ciliax born 30 Oct 1891 in Neudietendorf, Thuringia Died on 12 Dec 1964. WO on U52 16 Mar 1916- 14 Oct 1917 Commandant of UB96 24 Jun 1918-27 Jul 1918 Commandant of UC 27 24 Sep 1918 20 Jan 1919 Why isn't he in the commander listing ??? Respectfully, Joe R
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Thanks Michael, Looks like it took about a year to sail again. Joe
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Hi Guys, On what date did Brit monitors shell and sink UC70 June 5 1917??, while docked at Zeebrugge. Respectfully Joe R
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Simon,thanks for taking the time to double check! As for BRAUTIGAM, had only date of death. Will keep looking. Thanks again, Joe
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Simon get ready to take aim, BODO ELLEKE * 26.05.1890 in Celle (N-Germany) - 01.01.1940 Korvettenkapitän - 1940 - 43: Staffofficer in France - 10.43 - 9.44: MPA - 09.44 - 05.45: Commander of the MAA 500 and the port of Rorvik, Island of Vikna, near Drontheim, Norway - 05.45 - 30.05.46: PoW +7 June 1966 Richard Scheurlen died 8 Apr 1945 Max Bieler died 25 Jun 1966 Thorw
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Hi Simon aka UC67! Very good aim. Great many thanks for corrections. This is how errors were made. Gerhard von Zitzewitz (4.11.1881 - 4.12.1937); <lb/> Günther von Zitzewitz (9.2.1846 - 8.4.1898); <lb/> Maximilian von Zitzewitz (6.1.1886 - 4.12.1937); Source: Eduard Aust (geb.: 11.8.1920); <lb/> Hubert Aust (4.3.1886 - 11.4.1966); <lb/> Fritz Avenar
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A few more, Georg Gerth brother of Erich Gerth died on 13 Sept 1970. Friedrich Crusemann died on 20 Aug.1977 Adolf Ehrensberger died 9 Jun 1940 Hans Georg Lubbe died on 15 Dec. 1965 Gerhardt Furbringer brother of Werner Furbringer died on 17 Mar. 1972 Gernot Gotting died on 8 Aug. 1930 Gehrard von Zitzewitz died on 4 Dec. 1937 Hubert Aust 19 May 1994 Respectfully, Jo
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