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10 months ago
Mark McShane
Nothing on the attack, but the vessel fell astern from the convoy on the night of 4th December and proceeded independently after that. The detail on the actual attack we have would be from U-103 ktb, with no survivors we don't have any survivors reports and a quick search of my records found nothing washed ashore from the wreckage in Ireland.
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11 months ago
Mark McShane
Hi John, U-1305 was originally supposed to be allocated to the USN but because of its condition they did not accept it and it was then allocated to the Soviets. It remained at Lisahally waiting for the move, Operation Cabal. This began on 23 November 1945. U-1407 was towed to Barrow and on 25 September 1945 it was assigned the pennant number N.25. As U-1305 was assigned tot he Soviets it i
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11 months ago
Mark McShane
Hi John, It looks like there was a recent reassessment in February 2023 that attributed the sinking to U-103, however the notes on the event on the Lapwing page still refers to U-203 in the sinking of the vessel. On the movement of U-103, at the time that Lapwing was sunk, the U-103 position as per her war diary was 26/09 0400hrs DH 7445 (28°03'00"N, 023°18'00"W), which is
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2 years ago
Mark McShane
. Conclusion In conclusion, and in strict accordance with the Potsdam Agreement, the Tripartite Naval Commission allocated 10 of the U-Boats that had surrendered to each of the UK, the USA and the USSR, and recommended that all the remaining afloat, but unallocated, U-Boats should be sunk no later that 15 February 1946.
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2 years ago
Mark McShane
Sounds like fishermen doing what fishermen do at sea and at night. By the accounts from both you mention, there were fishermen in the vicinity and they are notorious for not putting on their correct lights or any lights unless they see something close by that may run over their gear. Differentiating an outline at sea and if there is the back scatter of lights from other vessels or that back scatt
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2 years ago
Mark McShane
Urs Heßling Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > hi, Mark, > > ref Bayntun in EG 44. B. had just been > commissioned in January. I doubt whether she was > operational already one month later. > > greetings, Urs Hi Urs, As Tomek just asked for the ships in both EG's and 42nd was involved in escorting the convoy I didn't g
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2 years ago
Mark McShane
Hi Tomek, Pink list for 19 February 1943, 42nd EG; Weston (SO), Folkstone, Gorleston, Totland, Exe, Ness, Bradford (At Liverpool and did not sail with escort group), Lowestoft (Refit Falmouth), Wellington (Refit Sheerness). 44th EG: Egret (SO), Erne, Banff, Fishguard, Clare, Bayntun, Test, Teviot, Trent. From convoy report of proceedings, UC-1 escort comprised 42EG of Weston (SO), Nes
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2 years ago
Mark McShane
Hi Platon, Many thanks for this, I had looked at U-617 but hadn't considered U-596, when viewing the patrol day map on uboat.net this boat was not showing in the western Med and I didn't have a diary for the boat anyway. Thanks for confirming this, another verified attack for the 41st EG. Mark
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2 years ago
Mark McShane
Folks, HMS CLARE attacked a U-boat on 12 November 1942, 1850hrs, position 37 32N 000 03E. Contact was made initially by radar and was later sighted on the surface after being illuminated by searchlight. CLARE made a deliberate 14 pattern DC attack, about one minute after the DC attack there was a violent explosion and the ASDIC echo faded. Assessment committee's decision was that the U-bo
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2 years ago
Mark McShane
Excerpt from Skizzenbuch: U-Boat Type VII C Project, by Donald M. Prince Personnel on the bridge during a surface torpedo attack... During a surface attack, the following persons would be on the bridge: 4 lookouts, the commanding officer and the torpedo officer - that would be a total of 6 persons.
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2 years ago
Mark McShane
Folks, I came across an interesting snippet of information regarding the two subject vessels. From a report by HMS EXE (ADM 199/618) there was an entry that stated, "At 0312 on September 29th., in position 55° 28'N 20 38'W, spoke S.S. LIFLAND proceeding 072 at 8 knots, She reported she was bound from Sydney to Belfast, had been in convoy SC.101, but lost the convoy in fog on
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2 years ago
Mark McShane
HI Ken, thank you for your responses to this query, we all tend to focus on the operational side of the U-boats and so forth. But the daily mundane life of actually living on a U-boat tends to get overlooked. Reading your description I did feel uncomfortable. Regards, Mark
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3 years ago
Mark McShane
many thanks Thorsten,
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3 years ago
Mark McShane
Hi Folks, Can someone direct me to a source for Italian submarines in the Atlantic? Regards, Mark
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3 years ago
Mark McShane
Dear Dennis, Many thanks for the input, I forgot about this one. Regards, Mark
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3 years ago
Mark McShane
Hi Don, Refueling, no. Landings, yes. October 1939 U-35 landed survivors from the Greek cargo ship Diamantis at Ventry and in June 1940 U-38 landed two agents on the Dingle Peninsula.
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3 years ago
Mark McShane
Doesn't sound too promising, of all the known makers of the 2nd pattern S-boot badge, none have the initials GB.
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3 years ago
Mark McShane
Several ships were lost through mines that would frequently break loose from the extensive minefield across St. Georges Channel, this was most likely the cause of this loss.
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3 years ago
Mark McShane
Folks, Can anyone provide some insight into these coding disks were used? The link below provides a general overview in that they were used as a pair, but can anyone describe where the correct paired sequence would be found and reading the discs in use to derive a short signal? Regards, Mark
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3 years ago
Mark McShane
Thanks Thorsten for confirming, Mark
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3 years ago
Mark McShane
Folks, Can someone assist, NEWTON PINE 2200 GMT 13 December 1940, position 8 16N 15 25W, reported an attack, first a torpedo exploded astern, submarine then surfaced and a 30 minute gun engagement took place between the ship and submarine. The submarine later dived after the ship reported a possible hit on the submarine. Looking at patrols the nearest U-boat was U-65 but its too far south,
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3 years ago
Mark McShane
Hi Sergio, for the merchant ships lost I would allow a generous 10nm circle of error, given that all positions were determined by celestial navigation. Even for a big well known ship such as the aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal that would have had a reliable last known sinking position, still took until 2002 to find the actual wreck site and it was a very long way from the recorded sinking position
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4 years ago
Mark McShane
Hi Dman, If you go to www.jstor.org (If not already subscribed then they are doing a special due to covid19 where you can sign up and get to view 100 free articles). Search for an article called, Definitely Damaged or Destroyed" Reexamining Civil Air Patrol's Wartime Claims, by Frank A. Blazich Jr. Air Power History Vol. 66, No. 1 (SPRING 2019), pp. 19-30 (12 pages) This wil
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6 years ago
Mark McShane
I'm sure Rainer has compiled a complete list, I had some info I sent to him so I'm sure he can assist.
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6 years ago
Mark McShane
The fantastic research by Derek Waller on surrendered u-boats should provide the answer. Here is a link to one of his articles, if he is online he can no doubt provide extra information. Regards, Mark
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6 years ago
Mark McShane
RACER Patrol Squadron 32 diary, 26 June 1942, aircraft 32-P-1 located RACER, schooner was directed to sheltered waters, a boarding party on board another suspect vessel LAGUNA was picked up and put on board RACER with an additional boarding party coming in another aircraft. The boarding party came from a detail of crew from USS GOLDSBOROUGH. The search turned up nothing suspicious, however
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7 years ago
Mark McShane
Cheers Rainer, The CWGC are not infallible and they are always open to dialogue, changing a history however with them is difficult (I've tried for 6 years). If we put enough documents together they may change all casualties deaths to the 11th.
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7 years ago
Mark McShane
The actual date of the attcak and sinking is not in doubt, how CWGC record the date of the deaths is where the confusion is coming from. STELLA CAPELLA was officially presumed lost by the Admiralty on the 19th and this is the date the CWGC have used to record the deaths of the crew. Doing a quick search another example is HMS ORPHEUS, exact date of loss unknown but Admiralty officially delcare
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7 years ago
Mark McShane
19th was the day the Admiralty considered the vessel was presumed lost.
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7 years ago
Mark McShane
Hi Patrick, the captain reported the position as 49 03N 19 40W Regards, Mark
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