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RE: Sub News - an occasional review
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Yuri IL\'IN
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Date: June 08, 2001 02:49AM
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<td valign=top><font face=\'verdana,arial,helvetica, sans-serif\' size=1 color=#000000>THURSDAY JUNE 07 2001</td>
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<td valign=top><font face=\'times new roman, times, serif\' size=1 color=#990000> FROM GILES WHITTELL IN MOSCOW</td>
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<td width=400 valign=top><font face=\'times new roman, times, serif\' size=3 color=#000000>THE threat of a virtually undetectable menace from the deep, which made a bestseller of Tom ClancyÃ’s book <I>The Hunt for Red October</I>, appears to have come true. A Russian nuclear submarine that claims to be the worldÃ’s quietest has put to sea ten years after her keel was laid in a Soviet naval shipyard.
<P>The <I>Gephardt</I>, the newest vessel in RussiaÒs Northern Fleet, slipped from her berth in the Sevmash shipyard near Archangel on Monday for trials in the Barents Sea, during which Nato navies will be anxious to test the claim that she is Óthe Mercedes of the oceansÔ.
<P>Designers of the 350ft boat, an Akula 2-class submarine, claim that she cannot be detected from more than seven miles away, even with the US NavyÃ’s most sophisticated listening devices. This would make her quieter than her US counterpart, the Los Angeles class submarine, which she also beats for speed, firepower and maximum diving depth.
<P>The <I>Gephardt</I> is considered to be a triumph of espionage rather than engineering. She uses technology stolen by KGB moles in the US Navy during the 1980s and propellers made with steel-milling technology sold illegally to the Soviet Union by JapanÃ’s Toshiba giant.
<P>Her long path to active service reflects the chaos in Russia in the 1990s. Scheduled to be completed in 1996, she was still in dry dock in 1998 and has yet to be fully paid for by the Defence Ministry.
<P>In another sign of looming paralysis in RussiaÃ’s under-funded military, a daily newspaper reported yesterday that the governor of the Omsk region of Siberia has decided to provide the navy with state-of-the-art communications equipment intended for a nuclear submarine free of charge because the Defence Ministry was unable to pay for it.
<P>The fictional <I>Red October</I> was captained by Ramius, played by Sean Connery in the film of the book. She went to sea before the Soviet collapse claiming, like the <I>Gephardt</I>, to be the worldÃ’s stealthiest submarine.</P></td>
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<td width=400 valign=top><font face=\'times new roman, times, serif\' size=3 color=#000000>THE message that Russian have best today in the world submarines it\'s necessary to escort by the commentaries that the reader had negative emotions.
<P>1. Analogy conduct between real-life submarine and submarine being imagination of times of Ñool War. Emotions of the reader which the propagation has created during Ñool War automatically will be transferred on modern Russian submarine.
<P>2. Russian certainly can not make anything good. All their achievement are certainly stolen in West. More convincing would be declaration, that submarine <em>Gephardt</em> is a replica of the German submarines of times WW2.
<P>3. Russia has constructed submarines which cost exceeds the cost, for example, all German submarines taken together. From here it is possible to make a conclusion, that the financial possibilities of Russian Navy are extremely limited in comparison with Germany and other countries.
<P>4. The construction best in the world submarines uniquel testifies about \"chaos in Russia\".
<P>It seems, that the correspondent and editor of <em>The Times</em> consider the readers as the very silly people which there have no ability to think logically.
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<td width=400 valign=top><font face=\'times new roman, times, serif\' size=3 color=#000000>THE threat of a virtually undetectable menace from the deep, which made a bestseller of Tom ClancyÃ’s book <I>The Hunt for Red October</I>, appears to have come true. A Russian nuclear submarine that claims to be the worldÃ’s quietest has put to sea ten years after her keel was laid in a Soviet naval shipyard.
<P>The <I>Gephardt</I>, the newest vessel in RussiaÒs Northern Fleet, slipped from her berth in the Sevmash shipyard near Archangel on Monday for trials in the Barents Sea, during which Nato navies will be anxious to test the claim that she is Óthe Mercedes of the oceansÔ.
<P>Designers of the 350ft boat, an Akula 2-class submarine, claim that she cannot be detected from more than seven miles away, even with the US NavyÃ’s most sophisticated listening devices. This would make her quieter than her US counterpart, the Los Angeles class submarine, which she also beats for speed, firepower and maximum diving depth.
<P>The <I>Gephardt</I> is considered to be a triumph of espionage rather than engineering. She uses technology stolen by KGB moles in the US Navy during the 1980s and propellers made with steel-milling technology sold illegally to the Soviet Union by JapanÃ’s Toshiba giant.
<P>Her long path to active service reflects the chaos in Russia in the 1990s. Scheduled to be completed in 1996, she was still in dry dock in 1998 and has yet to be fully paid for by the Defence Ministry.
<P>In another sign of looming paralysis in RussiaÃ’s under-funded military, a daily newspaper reported yesterday that the governor of the Omsk region of Siberia has decided to provide the navy with state-of-the-art communications equipment intended for a nuclear submarine free of charge because the Defence Ministry was unable to pay for it.
<P>The fictional <I>Red October</I> was captained by Ramius, played by Sean Connery in the film of the book. She went to sea before the Soviet collapse claiming, like the <I>Gephardt</I>, to be the worldÃ’s stealthiest submarine.</P></td>
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<td valign=top><font face=\'times new roman, times, serif\' size=1 color=#990000> FROM YURU IL\'IN IN MOSCOW</td>
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<td width=400 valign=top><font face=\'times new roman, times, serif\' size=3 color=#000000>THE message that Russian have best today in the world submarines it\'s necessary to escort by the commentaries that the reader had negative emotions.
<P>1. Analogy conduct between real-life submarine and submarine being imagination of times of Ñool War. Emotions of the reader which the propagation has created during Ñool War automatically will be transferred on modern Russian submarine.
<P>2. Russian certainly can not make anything good. All their achievement are certainly stolen in West. More convincing would be declaration, that submarine <em>Gephardt</em> is a replica of the German submarines of times WW2.
<P>3. Russia has constructed submarines which cost exceeds the cost, for example, all German submarines taken together. From here it is possible to make a conclusion, that the financial possibilities of Russian Navy are extremely limited in comparison with Germany and other countries.
<P>4. The construction best in the world submarines uniquel testifies about \"chaos in Russia\".
<P>It seems, that the correspondent and editor of <em>The Times</em> consider the readers as the very silly people which there have no ability to think logically.
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