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RE: Kursk disaster
Posted by:
Yuri IL\'IN
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Date: August 18, 2001 04:50PM
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The reasons of loss of Kursk are unknown. BBS tries to manipulate consciousness of the people considering them idiotes.Not having the new information try to create negative impression about Russia and Russian
The fact of loss of the British submarine testifies to low technical opportunities of Great Britain instead of about that hydrogen peroxide cannot be used in torpedos
From last Sanday Times report
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The anxiety of the UK and Nato at Russia\'s tactical advantage in ASW is underlined by a British intelligence assessment produced earlier this year.
It says: \"Though Britain has had a fine reputation for ASW operations, it has fallen behind the latest developments in submarine technology.\"
Despite financial difficulties, says the report, the Russians have persisted with developing the Akula (Shark) Type-971 hunter-killer submarine and other advanced designs with sophisticated noise-suppression systems.
The report claims that western analysts have severely underestimated the amount of underwater stealth technology that Russia has acquired through its own spying operations. \"Therefore it would be a reasonable assumption that the Russians can indeed detect and track even the most advanced Royal Navy or Nato submarines for much of the time,\" it says. \"It is highly unlikely that we would be able to detect, track and then destroy the next generation of extra-quiet, fast and deep-diving Russian submarines with any certainty.\"
A former Russian nuclear submarine commander who now works as a military analyst said: \"Russia is way ahead when it comes to experience and technology in tracking down nuclear submarines. It has better systems and equipment in the field of sonar and thermal imaging. It also has better satellite tracking systems.\"
Russia has caught up through a series of spying coups. In 1986 it was revealed that John Walker, a US naval communications expert, had been supplying Russia with military messages for up to 17 years.
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Posted By: Eric F [pub49.ezboard.com]
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I have always been somewhat dismayed at how ridiculously most people seem to underestimate Russia\'s military and technological capabilities, but I have also always thought the Vanguards to be very sophisticated subs, more or less equivilent in their technical sohpistication to the first generation of Akulas. While I don\'t know enough about them to judge very thoroughly on how they might fare under attack by one of the later generations of Akulas, I don\'t think that the threat is as great (if it eists at all, seeing as how Russia is now an ally) as the article depicts, primarily because no nation with great naval power in the world these days probably has any ambition to use it in offensive action against a nation of similar power.
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About the best in the World Russian torpedoes see Scientific Americans
[www.sciam.com]
\'Several months earlier, when American businessman Edmond Pope was
arrested in Moscow on charges of espionage, it was said that he had been
trying to buy the plans for an ultrahigh-speed torpedo.\'
West has not such good torpedos that Russian Navy has jet 20 years. Country friendly to Russia: (China, India, Iran) have that torpedos too.
The mistake of Pope consist that he was greedy and has offered only $ 500. If he has offered $ 10 000, than all necessary papers have brought to his home and was no necessity to go in Moscow.The president Putin let off Edmond Pope
)
Regards,
Yuri IL\'IN
Moscow Russia
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The reasons of loss of Kursk are unknown. BBS tries to manipulate consciousness of the people considering them idiotes.Not having the new information try to create negative impression about Russia and Russian
The fact of loss of the British submarine testifies to low technical opportunities of Great Britain instead of about that hydrogen peroxide cannot be used in torpedos
From last Sanday Times report
---------------------- begin -----------------
The anxiety of the UK and Nato at Russia\'s tactical advantage in ASW is underlined by a British intelligence assessment produced earlier this year.
It says: \"Though Britain has had a fine reputation for ASW operations, it has fallen behind the latest developments in submarine technology.\"
Despite financial difficulties, says the report, the Russians have persisted with developing the Akula (Shark) Type-971 hunter-killer submarine and other advanced designs with sophisticated noise-suppression systems.
The report claims that western analysts have severely underestimated the amount of underwater stealth technology that Russia has acquired through its own spying operations. \"Therefore it would be a reasonable assumption that the Russians can indeed detect and track even the most advanced Royal Navy or Nato submarines for much of the time,\" it says. \"It is highly unlikely that we would be able to detect, track and then destroy the next generation of extra-quiet, fast and deep-diving Russian submarines with any certainty.\"
A former Russian nuclear submarine commander who now works as a military analyst said: \"Russia is way ahead when it comes to experience and technology in tracking down nuclear submarines. It has better systems and equipment in the field of sonar and thermal imaging. It also has better satellite tracking systems.\"
Russia has caught up through a series of spying coups. In 1986 it was revealed that John Walker, a US naval communications expert, had been supplying Russia with military messages for up to 17 years.
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Posted By: Eric F [pub49.ezboard.com]
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I have always been somewhat dismayed at how ridiculously most people seem to underestimate Russia\'s military and technological capabilities, but I have also always thought the Vanguards to be very sophisticated subs, more or less equivilent in their technical sohpistication to the first generation of Akulas. While I don\'t know enough about them to judge very thoroughly on how they might fare under attack by one of the later generations of Akulas, I don\'t think that the threat is as great (if it eists at all, seeing as how Russia is now an ally) as the article depicts, primarily because no nation with great naval power in the world these days probably has any ambition to use it in offensive action against a nation of similar power.
-------------------- end ------------------------------------
About the best in the World Russian torpedoes see Scientific Americans
[www.sciam.com]
\'Several months earlier, when American businessman Edmond Pope was
arrested in Moscow on charges of espionage, it was said that he had been
trying to buy the plans for an ultrahigh-speed torpedo.\'
West has not such good torpedos that Russian Navy has jet 20 years. Country friendly to Russia: (China, India, Iran) have that torpedos too.
The mistake of Pope consist that he was greedy and has offered only $ 500. If he has offered $ 10 000, than all necessary papers have brought to his home and was no necessity to go in Moscow.The president Putin let off Edmond Pope
)
Regards,
Yuri IL\'IN
Moscow Russia
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