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The Eck Case......
Posted by:
Frank
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Date: December 31, 2001 01:37PM
<HTML>Hi all -
Am studying the various speeches etc, which were published in 1954 as a souvenir booklet after the first post-war re-union of U-boat men in Hamburg, as `Wiedersehen in Hamburg`. Included in the booklet is a section called `Der Fall Eck`, taken, so the booklet claims, `from the chapter [Kapitel] "Der Laconia Fall" in `So War der U-boot Krieg` by Busch`. I have copies both in German and English of `So war der U-boot Krieg`, so went to the German first to track the passage down, thinking that I would then be able to save myself translating-time by finding the corresponding bit in the English version. To my surprise, no `Laconia Fall` chapter in my German 1983 re-print of the 1952 edition; and I have only just realised how incredibly inadequate is the English version `U-boats at War` - which manages to cover 189 small pages as against the 428 of the original German by leaving out well over half of it; so the Laconia passage certainly doesn`t feature in there.
I offer this to the phorum for several reasons;
a) as a warning against thinking - as I did originally - that the paperback of `U-boats at War` is anything approaching a full translation of the German ! (Nowhere does my copy acknowledge that it is a very abridged version - which seems naughty to me.)
b) because I wonder whether a full translation into English has in fact been done. My `U-boats at War` is the Panther paperback, dated 1956. Is that an abridged version of the Putnam 1955 edition ?
c) because I`m puzzled as to what happened to the aforesaid `Laconia incident chapter` in `So war..........`. Is it in fact somewhere there under another heading ? Was it removed ? And if so, anyone know why ? I`m aware of course that both the Laconia incident and the Eck case were the subject of much debate at the time - could it be that the whole topic was considered too controversial for inclusion ?
If any members have copies of the above, I`d be very grateful if they could do a quick check - or indeed for any thoughts they may have on the matter.
Best regards - and a very Happy New Year to all; looking forward to a Birkenheaders` re-union in due course !
Frank</HTML>
Am studying the various speeches etc, which were published in 1954 as a souvenir booklet after the first post-war re-union of U-boat men in Hamburg, as `Wiedersehen in Hamburg`. Included in the booklet is a section called `Der Fall Eck`, taken, so the booklet claims, `from the chapter [Kapitel] "Der Laconia Fall" in `So War der U-boot Krieg` by Busch`. I have copies both in German and English of `So war der U-boot Krieg`, so went to the German first to track the passage down, thinking that I would then be able to save myself translating-time by finding the corresponding bit in the English version. To my surprise, no `Laconia Fall` chapter in my German 1983 re-print of the 1952 edition; and I have only just realised how incredibly inadequate is the English version `U-boats at War` - which manages to cover 189 small pages as against the 428 of the original German by leaving out well over half of it; so the Laconia passage certainly doesn`t feature in there.
I offer this to the phorum for several reasons;
a) as a warning against thinking - as I did originally - that the paperback of `U-boats at War` is anything approaching a full translation of the German ! (Nowhere does my copy acknowledge that it is a very abridged version - which seems naughty to me.)
b) because I wonder whether a full translation into English has in fact been done. My `U-boats at War` is the Panther paperback, dated 1956. Is that an abridged version of the Putnam 1955 edition ?
c) because I`m puzzled as to what happened to the aforesaid `Laconia incident chapter` in `So war..........`. Is it in fact somewhere there under another heading ? Was it removed ? And if so, anyone know why ? I`m aware of course that both the Laconia incident and the Eck case were the subject of much debate at the time - could it be that the whole topic was considered too controversial for inclusion ?
If any members have copies of the above, I`d be very grateful if they could do a quick check - or indeed for any thoughts they may have on the matter.
Best regards - and a very Happy New Year to all; looking forward to a Birkenheaders` re-union in due course !
Frank</HTML>
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The Eck Case......
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Frank | 12/31/2001 01:37PM |
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