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Re: kursk disaster fund.
Posted by:
Yuri IL'IN
()
Date: November 14, 2001 12:45AM
<HTML>Hi Chris
Many thanks for your kind heart and noble desire to help families of the perished seamen. In our cruel time the similar manifestations of solidarity merit the highest estimation.
I fetch known for me the information.
There is my brief comment at the end of the message.
[kursk.strana.ru]
The currency account for rendering help to the members of families of crew of <Kursk>
Financial and economic management of Navy
account # 40503840800060000055
Russia, Moscow, st. Kuznetsky most, 16
Vneshtorgbank, Svift: UTKK MM
[kursk.strana.ru]
On the account Financial and economic management of Northern Fleet <Nachimovskoe>, from the moment of its opening till the present time, as the charitable help of the citizens and organizations has arrived 100,7 mil. roubles, 23169 US dollars, 1250 DM.
47629915 roubles, from them are expended in total:
- Disbursement to the members of families - 44873988 roubles;
- Organizational flow rates.
The residual of the remedies - 53036593 roubles.
[www.dotan.net]
Contributions to the Families of Submariners Lost on Kursk
I have found 2 ways that look credible to me:
For North Americans:
The Submariners Club in St. Petersburg.
They require wiring money since mail is unreliable and checks and cash could be lost
Correspondent bank: BANK OF NEW YORK
SWIFT: IRVT US 3N
Beneficiary bank: INKASBANK, ST. PETERSBURG
SWIFT: INKS RU 2 P ACCOUNT: 890-0260-963
Beneficiary: 40703840200029000028 SUBMARINERS CLUB, SAINT PETERSBURG LINIA 9, 50, V.O. ST. PETERSBURG
(DONATION TO THE KURSK CREW FAMILIES - DOBROVOLNIY BEZVOZMEZDNIY VZNOS NA BLAGOTVORITELNIE TSELY, PRODAZE NE PODLEZIT)
For Europeans:
A group of young enthusiastic Germans have established the largest <a href="[www.u-461.de] museum</b></a>
in Germany. They have a Russian Julliet submarine on display. As in Germany all Fundraising organization need a governmental license and are strictly controlled by the Finance Office,
they have asked one of the German biggest nonprofit charity organizations <b> <a href="[www.caritas.de">"Caritas"<];
to help them raise money for the families of the lost submariners. Their bank connection is:
banking institute: Sparkasse Vorpommern
bank account: 1414
bank code number: 150 505 00
SWIFT-Code: NOLADE 21 GRW
code: "KURSK"
The account will be closed on October 15th 2000. All money collected will be transferred to the families of the lost crew through the Catholic Children's home in Novosibirsk. Account will be finally terminated on October 31st 2000.
[kursk.strana.ru]
The check of Control auditing handle of the Ministry of Finance of Russia has not revealed no-purpose usage of the charitable remedies collected by "Club of the seamen - submariners" for the help to families of crew of a boat of "Kursk". The chairman of Club, Captain 1 rank Igor Kudrin has reported about it.
As he said, on comission General Prosecutor's office and checking auditing handle of the Ministry of finance has checked all charitable organizations, which assist families of the seamen of "Kursk". Check club has passed also. The unique claim of department of a state control and audit of the Ministry of finance consist, on data of Kudrin, that "money collected by club, was not spent almost".
As has reported Kudrin, in total on the charitable bill was enumerated 2 million 230 thousand 599 roubles. From them as the material help to families perished have repaid of 494 thousand 800 roubles.
Besides 42 thousand 942,5 dollars has acted on the currency account. From this sum was not spent any cent.
Kudrin report, that the unexpended remedies collected by club, will be directed in "Fund of memory of nuclear-powered submarines "Kursk", which was created in St. Petersburg some days back. He has stressed, that Fund includes only cognates perished. The board of trustees will dispose of the remedies of Fund.
Precisely for the present is not known, how this money will be used. Business that the representatives of Royal Navy having paid about 34 thousand dollars, appear against expenditure of the remedies on creation of a memorial of "Kursk".
As has told Kudrin, during recent visit to St.-Petersburg Club of seamen - submariners was visited by the Naval Attache of Great Britain Saimon Lister. He has offered to create joint board of trustees, and also has stated idea, that the remedies collected by club, laid on the currency bills of children of the perished seamen.
Under the words Kudrin, in August of this year - by anniversary of loss of a boat - in Marine Nikolo-Bogoyavlensky cathedral of St. Petersburg the memorial board in memory of the perished submariners will be opened.
My comment
Usually Englishmen have fancy representations about Russian life realities. In this case probably Mr. Attache has understood, that Mr. Kudrin is usual swindler. He has decided not transfer some $10,000 to families the perished submarines and use for own business. He will try to use this money as long as possible. Then instead of carrying out the debt he will make the bookings for works on creation of a "memorial" to himself or friends. The families probably never will see money.
In Russia the help should be rendered to the concrete man on the concrete purposes. For example it is possible to settle an account written out on the concrete man, known you, for acquisition of a preconcerted thing. It is not necessary to transfer the money any funds and similar structures.
In memoirs of Khrushchov he written, that in 1960th the outstanding Soviet pianist Richter somebody sent a perfect grand piano as gift from abroad. Richter could not receive this gift. He did not have money for payment of the customs tax for such expensive instrument. The intervention of Khrushchov (who that time was first man in USSR) required that the musician has received the instrument.
Regards
Yuri IL'IN
Moscow Russia</HTML>
Many thanks for your kind heart and noble desire to help families of the perished seamen. In our cruel time the similar manifestations of solidarity merit the highest estimation.
I fetch known for me the information.
There is my brief comment at the end of the message.
[kursk.strana.ru]
The currency account for rendering help to the members of families of crew of <Kursk>
Financial and economic management of Navy
account # 40503840800060000055
Russia, Moscow, st. Kuznetsky most, 16
Vneshtorgbank, Svift: UTKK MM
[kursk.strana.ru]
On the account Financial and economic management of Northern Fleet <Nachimovskoe>, from the moment of its opening till the present time, as the charitable help of the citizens and organizations has arrived 100,7 mil. roubles, 23169 US dollars, 1250 DM.
47629915 roubles, from them are expended in total:
- Disbursement to the members of families - 44873988 roubles;
- Organizational flow rates.
The residual of the remedies - 53036593 roubles.
[www.dotan.net]
Contributions to the Families of Submariners Lost on Kursk
I have found 2 ways that look credible to me:
For North Americans:
The Submariners Club in St. Petersburg.
They require wiring money since mail is unreliable and checks and cash could be lost
Correspondent bank: BANK OF NEW YORK
SWIFT: IRVT US 3N
Beneficiary bank: INKASBANK, ST. PETERSBURG
SWIFT: INKS RU 2 P ACCOUNT: 890-0260-963
Beneficiary: 40703840200029000028 SUBMARINERS CLUB, SAINT PETERSBURG LINIA 9, 50, V.O. ST. PETERSBURG
(DONATION TO THE KURSK CREW FAMILIES - DOBROVOLNIY BEZVOZMEZDNIY VZNOS NA BLAGOTVORITELNIE TSELY, PRODAZE NE PODLEZIT)
For Europeans:
A group of young enthusiastic Germans have established the largest <a href="[www.u-461.de] museum</b></a>
in Germany. They have a Russian Julliet submarine on display. As in Germany all Fundraising organization need a governmental license and are strictly controlled by the Finance Office,
they have asked one of the German biggest nonprofit charity organizations <b> <a href="[www.caritas.de">"Caritas"<];
to help them raise money for the families of the lost submariners. Their bank connection is:
banking institute: Sparkasse Vorpommern
bank account: 1414
bank code number: 150 505 00
SWIFT-Code: NOLADE 21 GRW
code: "KURSK"
The account will be closed on October 15th 2000. All money collected will be transferred to the families of the lost crew through the Catholic Children's home in Novosibirsk. Account will be finally terminated on October 31st 2000.
[kursk.strana.ru]
The check of Control auditing handle of the Ministry of Finance of Russia has not revealed no-purpose usage of the charitable remedies collected by "Club of the seamen - submariners" for the help to families of crew of a boat of "Kursk". The chairman of Club, Captain 1 rank Igor Kudrin has reported about it.
As he said, on comission General Prosecutor's office and checking auditing handle of the Ministry of finance has checked all charitable organizations, which assist families of the seamen of "Kursk". Check club has passed also. The unique claim of department of a state control and audit of the Ministry of finance consist, on data of Kudrin, that "money collected by club, was not spent almost".
As has reported Kudrin, in total on the charitable bill was enumerated 2 million 230 thousand 599 roubles. From them as the material help to families perished have repaid of 494 thousand 800 roubles.
Besides 42 thousand 942,5 dollars has acted on the currency account. From this sum was not spent any cent.
Kudrin report, that the unexpended remedies collected by club, will be directed in "Fund of memory of nuclear-powered submarines "Kursk", which was created in St. Petersburg some days back. He has stressed, that Fund includes only cognates perished. The board of trustees will dispose of the remedies of Fund.
Precisely for the present is not known, how this money will be used. Business that the representatives of Royal Navy having paid about 34 thousand dollars, appear against expenditure of the remedies on creation of a memorial of "Kursk".
As has told Kudrin, during recent visit to St.-Petersburg Club of seamen - submariners was visited by the Naval Attache of Great Britain Saimon Lister. He has offered to create joint board of trustees, and also has stated idea, that the remedies collected by club, laid on the currency bills of children of the perished seamen.
Under the words Kudrin, in August of this year - by anniversary of loss of a boat - in Marine Nikolo-Bogoyavlensky cathedral of St. Petersburg the memorial board in memory of the perished submariners will be opened.
My comment
Usually Englishmen have fancy representations about Russian life realities. In this case probably Mr. Attache has understood, that Mr. Kudrin is usual swindler. He has decided not transfer some $10,000 to families the perished submarines and use for own business. He will try to use this money as long as possible. Then instead of carrying out the debt he will make the bookings for works on creation of a "memorial" to himself or friends. The families probably never will see money.
In Russia the help should be rendered to the concrete man on the concrete purposes. For example it is possible to settle an account written out on the concrete man, known you, for acquisition of a preconcerted thing. It is not necessary to transfer the money any funds and similar structures.
In memoirs of Khrushchov he written, that in 1960th the outstanding Soviet pianist Richter somebody sent a perfect grand piano as gift from abroad. Richter could not receive this gift. He did not have money for payment of the customs tax for such expensive instrument. The intervention of Khrushchov (who that time was first man in USSR) required that the musician has received the instrument.
Regards
Yuri IL'IN
Moscow Russia</HTML>
| Subject | Written By | Posted |
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kursk disaster fund.
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chris lee | 11/12/2001 02:33PM |
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Re: kursk disaster fund.
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Yuri IL'IN | 11/14/2001 12:45AM |
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Re: kursk disaster fund./thanks yuri..
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chris lee | 11/15/2001 06:01PM |