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Re: Ships identification
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Peter Lindberg
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Date: February 21, 2003 11:54PM
<HTML>Ok, this is a tricky one
Due to your description of the torpedo boat I would say there were none. But, there were 30 torpedoboats built with only one torpedo tube, A 59-A 95. They however had only one funnel, a quite short and fat one. The displacement was 200 tons, top speed 24 knots. these boats were built in 1916-1917 at various yards.
But, I think you have a photo of either of following boats:
D 10, built in 1895 with a displacement of 355 tons, two 17,7 inch torpedo tubes and five 4pdr guns. This boat had two funnels with a quite narrow distance between them and high mast as you describe.
T 88 & T 89 (Krupp-Germania), built in 1898 with a displacement of 160 tons, two 17,7 inch torpedo tubes and one 4pdr gun. The funnels were placed quite far from eachother and there was a small mast in the middle.
T 82-T 87, built in 1898 with a displacement of 150-180 tons, three 17,7 inch torpedo tubes and one 4pdr gun. The funnels were placed quite far from eachother, the stern funnel near the centre of the boat, and there was also a small mast between them.
I would say it is D 10 you have describe.
About the small Dreadnought:
Well there is no German dreadnought with one funnel and two masts with same height. I guess you have a picture of the ship and maybe it is not so clear picture. There was a huge amount of German dreadnoughts and to describe them all would take me all night. However, it might be one of the Nassau class dreadnoughts, Westfalen (July 1908), Nassau ( Mars 1908), Posen (Dec 1908) or Rheinland (sep 1908). The size were quite impressive and I would not call them small, but they looks like they have only one funnel. It was one funnel placed in the centre of the ship and one built togheter with the bridge's supestructure. Therefor, on an old photo you do not see that funnel. The masts however are much higher than the funnels and the superstructure. What I can see there were no German dreadnoughts with masts as you describe them. The gun turrets are not the same either, the Nassau class had six turrets equiped with two 11 inch guns each. But at an old photo it might look like there is only one turret placed aft and one fore (stern, stem). Anyway, here is some data. Displacement 18 900 tons. Length, 478 feet. Beam, 88 feet. Armament, twelwe 11 inch guns, twelwe 5,9 inch guns, fourteen(?) 22pdr AA guns, six 19,7 inch torpedo tubes. Various thickness of armour, from 4 inch at waterline in the stern to 12 inch at the conning tower. Three steam engines (triple expansion, 20 000 hp), three screws, about 20 kts.
If you mail me your pictures I can give you an more qualified guess.
Kind regards
Peter Lindberg</HTML>
Due to your description of the torpedo boat I would say there were none. But, there were 30 torpedoboats built with only one torpedo tube, A 59-A 95. They however had only one funnel, a quite short and fat one. The displacement was 200 tons, top speed 24 knots. these boats were built in 1916-1917 at various yards.
But, I think you have a photo of either of following boats:
D 10, built in 1895 with a displacement of 355 tons, two 17,7 inch torpedo tubes and five 4pdr guns. This boat had two funnels with a quite narrow distance between them and high mast as you describe.
T 88 & T 89 (Krupp-Germania), built in 1898 with a displacement of 160 tons, two 17,7 inch torpedo tubes and one 4pdr gun. The funnels were placed quite far from eachother and there was a small mast in the middle.
T 82-T 87, built in 1898 with a displacement of 150-180 tons, three 17,7 inch torpedo tubes and one 4pdr gun. The funnels were placed quite far from eachother, the stern funnel near the centre of the boat, and there was also a small mast between them.
I would say it is D 10 you have describe.
About the small Dreadnought:
Well there is no German dreadnought with one funnel and two masts with same height. I guess you have a picture of the ship and maybe it is not so clear picture. There was a huge amount of German dreadnoughts and to describe them all would take me all night. However, it might be one of the Nassau class dreadnoughts, Westfalen (July 1908), Nassau ( Mars 1908), Posen (Dec 1908) or Rheinland (sep 1908). The size were quite impressive and I would not call them small, but they looks like they have only one funnel. It was one funnel placed in the centre of the ship and one built togheter with the bridge's supestructure. Therefor, on an old photo you do not see that funnel. The masts however are much higher than the funnels and the superstructure. What I can see there were no German dreadnoughts with masts as you describe them. The gun turrets are not the same either, the Nassau class had six turrets equiped with two 11 inch guns each. But at an old photo it might look like there is only one turret placed aft and one fore (stern, stem). Anyway, here is some data. Displacement 18 900 tons. Length, 478 feet. Beam, 88 feet. Armament, twelwe 11 inch guns, twelwe 5,9 inch guns, fourteen(?) 22pdr AA guns, six 19,7 inch torpedo tubes. Various thickness of armour, from 4 inch at waterline in the stern to 12 inch at the conning tower. Three steam engines (triple expansion, 20 000 hp), three screws, about 20 kts.
If you mail me your pictures I can give you an more qualified guess.
Kind regards
Peter Lindberg</HTML>
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