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Re: Turm III
Posted by:
Axel
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Date: December 21, 2001 08:16AM
<HTML>Hi Antonio,
Mr Rößler is of course wrong in this. His book gives the information status reached at the time of its publication, using, however, the original German edition of 1974 as a blueprint.
The Type III variation with two 2 cm guns on the upper bandstand only, to my knowledge, was only installed on the Type X)IV tanker U 490 during work-up period in the Baltic (when the lower bandstand was not installed to keep the space on the upper deck for handling the supply equipment) and possibly U 640 on its one and only patrol in May 1943 (deduced from a radio report about the experiences with the two guns firing forward across the bridge). Alternatively U 640 might have carried a lower bandstand as well, thus carrying three 2cm guns. Have not yet seen any photograph taken during one of the air attacks against the boat on 13/14th May. None of the Type VIID' s carried the version given by Rößler. It was only given in German documents as an intention, not a fact. Instead, U 214 and U 218, the only two to live long enough to see a CT conversion, both carried the Type II bandstands during summer 1943. The mineshafts could be loaded anyway. Same when later the boats carried Type IV bandstand.
Regards
Axel</HTML>
Mr Rößler is of course wrong in this. His book gives the information status reached at the time of its publication, using, however, the original German edition of 1974 as a blueprint.
The Type III variation with two 2 cm guns on the upper bandstand only, to my knowledge, was only installed on the Type X)IV tanker U 490 during work-up period in the Baltic (when the lower bandstand was not installed to keep the space on the upper deck for handling the supply equipment) and possibly U 640 on its one and only patrol in May 1943 (deduced from a radio report about the experiences with the two guns firing forward across the bridge). Alternatively U 640 might have carried a lower bandstand as well, thus carrying three 2cm guns. Have not yet seen any photograph taken during one of the air attacks against the boat on 13/14th May. None of the Type VIID' s carried the version given by Rößler. It was only given in German documents as an intention, not a fact. Instead, U 214 and U 218, the only two to live long enough to see a CT conversion, both carried the Type II bandstands during summer 1943. The mineshafts could be loaded anyway. Same when later the boats carried Type IV bandstand.
Regards
Axel</HTML>
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