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RE: Deal signed.
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Date: May 22, 2001 03:53PM
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<span class=h20><br><br> To raise <em>Kursk</em> there will be the speculators
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<span class=h9b><font color=#808080> The Dutch company Mammoyet, with which the day before the government of Russia signed contract to the lift of <em>Kursk</em>, is similar, altogether only the mediator between the Russian government and the international consortium. Mammoyet it already proposed to a participant in the consortium of company Smith Tak to take part in the operation in the Barents sea.
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<span class=p11> On Monday the representatives of Dutch company Mammoyet the transport BV, with which on past Saturday Russian government signed contract to the lift of <em>Kursk</em>, they unexpectedly stated that they are turned for help to the company Smith Tak general director It mammoyet transport BV he said that proposes Smith Tak to take part in the operation on the lift of nuclear-powered ship from the bottom of the Barents sea: by it it is proposed to take?sovmestnoye part in the realization of the sea aspects of this project?. The representatives of company It mammoyet, the specializing in the production lift technology, they separately emphasized that?opyt of both companies can be we mutually-supplement?, which, in the opinion of Dutchmen, will make it possible to conduct operation more effectively and more safely. Furthermore, the representatives of company say that precisely participation Smith Tak, that has the experiment/experience of rescue operations in the open sea, will make it possible to complete operation within the periods presented.
<br> As it already wrote Gazeta.Ru, the failure of Russia of the agreement with the international consortium became for Smith Tak complete unexpected contingency. On the eve of the signing of contract s Mammoyet on 17 May press- secretary Smith Tak Lars Volder it complained to correspondent to?Gazety.Ru?, that in company was torn away the advantageous transaction to the lift of <em>Kursk</em>. Furthermore, Volder said that its company actually wants to take part in the lift works.
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Press- secretary Smith Tak Lars Volder did refuse to open to correspondent Gazety.Ru the part of the forthcoming transaction. He said only that its company it will be compulsory to participate in the forthcoming operation in the Barents sea. we cannot now promulgate the essence of negotiations with the representatives of company It mammoyet, because this is confidential information? did say Mr. Volder? I can only say that the conditions are very advantageous, and us they actually arrange?.
<br> In vice- premier Ilya Klebanov\'s secretariat to correspondent to Gazety.Ru also they did refuse to comment on the resolution of company It mammoyet to draw to the lift of <em>Kursk</em>? Smith Tak, but they stated: of?Esli they consider that so will be better, their this matter. However <em>Kursk</em> it must be raised in time, and demand will be precise from?Mamuta?, and not from someone still?.
Most interesting in this history? why Smith thus it agreed to performing of work on the lift of <em>Kursk</em>. It would seem, now the discussion must deal with the smaller sum than proposed Russian government to consortium, and about the periods, for which participants in the consortium before did not agree.
<br> However, it leaves in the detailed examination, that Smith Tak can obtain even more money, than before: now in the lift works it will participate only two companies (if It mammoyet, of course, it will not agree with someone still). In this situation even the smaller sum of contract (according to our data, this approximately $50-55 million) can bring Smith Tak the large money: each company will obtain $25 million. Meanwhile when the discussion dealt with the participation in the operation of international consortium, each of its participants relied on $23 million.
<br> It is possible also to assume that the company was before ready to go towards the Russian government and to conduct lift works in this year. However, being a participant in the international consortium, it could not act independently (company Of yueyerena and Yualliburton unambiguously they were voiced against performing of work in this year). this undoubtedly it could not but pass past the attention of representatives It mammoyet, and they proposed company collaboration.
<br> And finally one additional important aspect, which could force Smith Tak to take part in the operation? financial guarantees from the side It mammoyet. Even in such a case, when operation will be collapsed, and Russia will not pay off money, Smith then nevertheless his part will obtain? from It mammoyet, with which it has now separate contract.
<br> Another question? why precisely Mammoyet, that produces lift technology for the ground-based works, it undertook operation. Possibly, company from the very beginning did not intend to raise boat singly. For this in it as asserted the experts, there is neither the necessary technical base nor qualified specialists. Apparently, everything is explained by the fact that this company has a work experience on the Russian market (it was constructed the roof of stadium in Luzhnikakh), and it it was more easily find common language with the representatives of Russian government.
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<span class=h9b><font color=#808080> The Dutch company Mammoyet, with which the day before the government of Russia signed contract to the lift of <em>Kursk</em>, is similar, altogether only the mediator between the Russian government and the international consortium. Mammoyet it already proposed to a participant in the consortium of company Smith Tak to take part in the operation in the Barents sea.
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<span class=p11> On Monday the representatives of Dutch company Mammoyet the transport BV, with which on past Saturday Russian government signed contract to the lift of <em>Kursk</em>, they unexpectedly stated that they are turned for help to the company Smith Tak general director It mammoyet transport BV he said that proposes Smith Tak to take part in the operation on the lift of nuclear-powered ship from the bottom of the Barents sea: by it it is proposed to take?sovmestnoye part in the realization of the sea aspects of this project?. The representatives of company It mammoyet, the specializing in the production lift technology, they separately emphasized that?opyt of both companies can be we mutually-supplement?, which, in the opinion of Dutchmen, will make it possible to conduct operation more effectively and more safely. Furthermore, the representatives of company say that precisely participation Smith Tak, that has the experiment/experience of rescue operations in the open sea, will make it possible to complete operation within the periods presented.
<br> As it already wrote Gazeta.Ru, the failure of Russia of the agreement with the international consortium became for Smith Tak complete unexpected contingency. On the eve of the signing of contract s Mammoyet on 17 May press- secretary Smith Tak Lars Volder it complained to correspondent to?Gazety.Ru?, that in company was torn away the advantageous transaction to the lift of <em>Kursk</em>. Furthermore, Volder said that its company actually wants to take part in the lift works.
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Press- secretary Smith Tak Lars Volder did refuse to open to correspondent Gazety.Ru the part of the forthcoming transaction. He said only that its company it will be compulsory to participate in the forthcoming operation in the Barents sea. we cannot now promulgate the essence of negotiations with the representatives of company It mammoyet, because this is confidential information? did say Mr. Volder? I can only say that the conditions are very advantageous, and us they actually arrange?.
<br> In vice- premier Ilya Klebanov\'s secretariat to correspondent to Gazety.Ru also they did refuse to comment on the resolution of company It mammoyet to draw to the lift of <em>Kursk</em>? Smith Tak, but they stated: of?Esli they consider that so will be better, their this matter. However <em>Kursk</em> it must be raised in time, and demand will be precise from?Mamuta?, and not from someone still?.
Most interesting in this history? why Smith thus it agreed to performing of work on the lift of <em>Kursk</em>. It would seem, now the discussion must deal with the smaller sum than proposed Russian government to consortium, and about the periods, for which participants in the consortium before did not agree.
<br> However, it leaves in the detailed examination, that Smith Tak can obtain even more money, than before: now in the lift works it will participate only two companies (if It mammoyet, of course, it will not agree with someone still). In this situation even the smaller sum of contract (according to our data, this approximately $50-55 million) can bring Smith Tak the large money: each company will obtain $25 million. Meanwhile when the discussion dealt with the participation in the operation of international consortium, each of its participants relied on $23 million.
<br> It is possible also to assume that the company was before ready to go towards the Russian government and to conduct lift works in this year. However, being a participant in the international consortium, it could not act independently (company Of yueyerena and Yualliburton unambiguously they were voiced against performing of work in this year). this undoubtedly it could not but pass past the attention of representatives It mammoyet, and they proposed company collaboration.
<br> And finally one additional important aspect, which could force Smith Tak to take part in the operation? financial guarantees from the side It mammoyet. Even in such a case, when operation will be collapsed, and Russia will not pay off money, Smith then nevertheless his part will obtain? from It mammoyet, with which it has now separate contract.
<br> Another question? why precisely Mammoyet, that produces lift technology for the ground-based works, it undertook operation. Possibly, company from the very beginning did not intend to raise boat singly. For this in it as asserted the experts, there is neither the necessary technical base nor qualified specialists. Apparently, everything is explained by the fact that this company has a work experience on the Russian market (it was constructed the roof of stadium in Luzhnikakh), and it it was more easily find common language with the representatives of Russian government.
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Subject | Written By | Posted |
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Deal signed. | Joe Brennan | 05/19/2001 07:59AM |
RE: Thanks Jo.. | MPC | 05/19/2001 08:10AM |
RE: Thanks Jo.. | Ted Agar | 05/19/2001 02:20PM |
RE: Thanks Jo.. | Ted Agar | 05/19/2001 02:21PM |
RE: Thanks Jo.. | Ted Agar | 05/19/2001 02:22PM |
RE: torepdo failure.? | Joe Brennan | 05/19/2001 10:06PM |
RE: Thanks Jo.. | Ted Agar | 05/19/2001 02:31PM |
RE: Thanks Jo.. | Ted Agar | 05/19/2001 02:34PM |
RE: Thanks Jo..Kursk | John Griffiths | 05/21/2001 08:26PM |
RE: Deal signed. | Yuri IL\'IN | 05/19/2001 04:57PM |
something to think about . | ray.s. | 05/19/2001 05:30PM |
RE: not till it surfaces | MPC | 05/19/2001 10:03PM |
Where is Glomar Explorer??? | Tim | 05/19/2001 10:24PM |
RE: correction! | Joe Brennan | 05/19/2001 10:32PM |
RE: Where is Glomar Explorer??? | Vin | 05/21/2001 11:36AM |
Converted for deep water drilling | MCE | 05/21/2001 04:37PM |
RE: Deal signed. | Yuri IL\'IN | 05/21/2001 08:54PM |
RE: Deal signed. | Yuri IL\'IN | 05/22/2001 03:53PM |