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RE: Enigma rotor capture
Posted by:
Fin Bonset
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Date: January 15, 2001 02:59PM
<HTML>Hello Harry,
I\'m sorry to inform you that the Americans did not capture the enigma the first time and it certainly wasn\'t done like in the movie U-571. In fact that was the worst historically correct movie of our time.
Here\'s an excerpt from this site regarding Enigma:
The British codebreakers at Bletchley Park received an Enigma machine and rotors I to V from the Polish Cipher Bureau in August 1939. Marian Rejewski, an outstanding Polish cryptanalyst, had reconstructed the wiring of rotors I to III at the end of 1932 using mathematical techniques, and the wiring of rotors IV and V before the war began. The British recovered rotors VI and VII from the crew of U-33 on 12 February 1940, while rotor VIII was captured in August 1940.
In May and June 1940, using cleartext and cipher text captured from Schiff 26, Hut 8 at Bletchley Park had solved some April naval Enigma traffic with the aid of the first bombe (a high speed key-finding aid). That bombe, which was Alan Turing\'s brainchild, was much slower than the bombes with the \'diagonal board\' invented by Gordon Welchman. The improved bombe, with the board, entered service in mid-August.
As you can see, the English codebreakers already had the machine way before America entered the war.
U-505 is perhaps the most famous American related story as it was one of the u-boats that was captured with an enigma machine. That story can also be found on this site at his address:
[www.uboat.net]
To read more and learn about the REAL story of the capture of Enigma go here:
[www.uboat.net]
best regards,
Fin Bonset
</HTML>
I\'m sorry to inform you that the Americans did not capture the enigma the first time and it certainly wasn\'t done like in the movie U-571. In fact that was the worst historically correct movie of our time.
Here\'s an excerpt from this site regarding Enigma:
The British codebreakers at Bletchley Park received an Enigma machine and rotors I to V from the Polish Cipher Bureau in August 1939. Marian Rejewski, an outstanding Polish cryptanalyst, had reconstructed the wiring of rotors I to III at the end of 1932 using mathematical techniques, and the wiring of rotors IV and V before the war began. The British recovered rotors VI and VII from the crew of U-33 on 12 February 1940, while rotor VIII was captured in August 1940.
In May and June 1940, using cleartext and cipher text captured from Schiff 26, Hut 8 at Bletchley Park had solved some April naval Enigma traffic with the aid of the first bombe (a high speed key-finding aid). That bombe, which was Alan Turing\'s brainchild, was much slower than the bombes with the \'diagonal board\' invented by Gordon Welchman. The improved bombe, with the board, entered service in mid-August.
As you can see, the English codebreakers already had the machine way before America entered the war.
U-505 is perhaps the most famous American related story as it was one of the u-boats that was captured with an enigma machine. That story can also be found on this site at his address:
[www.uboat.net]
To read more and learn about the REAL story of the capture of Enigma go here:
[www.uboat.net]
best regards,
Fin Bonset
</HTML>
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