TNA files of course which fit perfectly "in time and space" or so ;-) Oliver
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It was UB 105 at 9 p.m. in position 38°18'N-18°E, using gunfire. It is mentioned in her KTB, but is missed by Spindler! I have no additional information on this sinking (voyage, name of captain, casualties etc.)... Oliver
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Well, the KTB for sure... Although I can't make out every letter in the bad microfiche copy from BAMA (I will check the original later), everything's clear: Evening of March 26th, 1918, in Smalls area, chased an supposed steamer, which changed course from North to South (rather unusall for an "steamer", but confirmed by the logbook of PC 51 which of course was on patrol
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Oliver Lörscher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- --- on March 22nd, 1918 --- aahh, shoudl say March 26nd of course :-(
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Gentlemen, U 61's final fate has to be rewritten, in fact at the moment it is another of the "missing" U-Boats. The attack attributed to U 61's sinking by P-Boat PC 51 on March 22nd, 1918 in fact was against UC 56 (Kiesewetter), which was badly shaken, but survived of course. Oliver
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And I of course will have a look at TNA to confirm that and also to find out the identity of the second Trawler... Oliver
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No, thank you! These Trawlers were armed, aren't they? I'm not sure on their status !? Should have a look at TNA files to confirm the date of the engagement, but it fits perfectly with LWL-entry... Oliver
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Another one for the database: UB 78 (Oblt.z.S. Stosberg) on 21.03.1918 in the forenoon passed St. Abbs Head and went along the southern coast of the Firth of Forth up to Bass Rock, than at 19:15h they surfaced again and left the coast. than, at 19:40h: Feuer auf 2 Bewacher, die dem Boot den Weg verlegen wollten, auf 40 hm eröffnet. Feuer wurde von Fischdampfern erwidert. Ein Treffer beobac
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I haven't found anything within the british Archives (TNA) dealing with that loss. The first german mines (laid by UC 12) in that area are from 25.07.1915. Possibly an italian defensive minefield ? Oliver
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Some details I forgot to mention: Commander of STARMOUNT was LtCdr. A. M. Y. Dane, RN. U 54's torpedo hit abreast the fore end of No. 1 hatch. STARMOUNT was towed in by an tug, escorted by two trawlers to Kirkwall. Source: ADM 137-2653 (Anti-Submarine Division reports) Oliver
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it was 90 miles East of Capo Figari, Sardegna (41°04'N-11°48'E) Oliver
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HMS AVON was escorting submarines L 2 and L 7 from Liverpool via Barrow to the Clyde when at 06:10h she reported one torpedo missed the destroyer. That was 0,75 miles off the coast, Loch Ransa, Isle of Arran. All three units kept about 1 calbe distance between each ship. As far as I can say there was NO german submarine nearby... Oliver
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Just to confirm, no casualties. AND: she fired TWO separate torpedoes against U 54 (one missed, one dud). Oliver :-)
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This Q-ship was the STARMOUNT (LtCdr. Dane), 2485 g.r.t. She fired two separate torpedoes against U 54 of which one hit the german U-boat but failed to explode. This incident later that day was reported by U 54 "to all U-boats", but the subsequent sinking of this Q-ship by an other U-Boat obviously is nothing more than an good tale :-) Oliver
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If you think so !
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Simple: the germans claimed an hit, that found it's way into the news, and that's it. But as I have seen many original files from the mediterranean theatre I can say there was NO hit. Oliver
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Hi Denis, UB 43 attacked LIBIA with 2 torpedos on 08.10.1916, firing at 1400 metres range, but missed. They reported an detonation and that the cruiser was listing, but that's not true. So just an "missed opportunity" ! Oliver
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Hallo Nantes, well, crew lists for the vessels above? I don't know. Looks like you already have the service records for Robert V. Mack? If not, look here: * I can help you a little bit with the british submarines, of course: Robert V. Mack was 1st Lieutenant on C 13 from March to August 1918. That boat belonged to the XI. Flotilla at Blyth, used for local defence. Lt. Mack
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Hi ... Well, you are right, the internet ... The date 18.08.1914 for "Straßburg" vs. E 5 and E 7 is correct. On her final voyage E 5 MIGHT have been encountered by Battlecruiser "Seydlitz" and got 2 depth-charges from the german torpedoboats, but that's not for sure and also the german depth-charges were far away from being deadly weapons :-( E 5 for the time
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Hi Nom Anor, the reported attack against B 3 (Chisholm) was bogus, no U-Boat in that area. As for C 4: 26.09.1917 position was 50°02‘N-02°04‘W at 19:30h and her target MIGHT have been UB 40 (Howaldt), but I haven't seen UB 40's KTB to confirm the "dud-story". 27.03.1918 position was 50°28‘N-00°14‘E at 00:33h and her target was UB 59 (Wassner) who didn't notice
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I already have this book (it's written in German of course). Very good work, exactly what has to be expected from such an book: From the cradle to the grave the bio's of all Submarine Commanders of the austro-hungarian-Navy are covered. Occasionally there are some gaps for the periods before/after the Great War, where the Archives doesn't give away any details. B.t.w.: you
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Hi Simon, well, I haven't seen U 61's KTB yet, but don't believe it to be her. U 61 damaged USS SANTEE the same day, 10 hours later, South-West of Queenstown in 51°23'N-08°38'W and as far as I know U 61 was just coming from the Dover barrage, going to her patrol area Irish Sea. Oliver
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I also think it should be UC 75 as the time given by the british side for this action was 10:25h, the german time about 11:30h, that fits. Position given by LOTHBURY was 54°36'N-04°08'W which is North-East of the Isle of Man. Simon: Position given by UC 75 correct ? LOTHBURY by the way claimed to be in action with TWO submarines, one after another !? Oliver
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O.k., in that case I have full details for both of them: PASQUALINA S., 2-masted-schooner (Goletta) 80 g.r.t., 64 n.r.t., from Viareggio, owner Giuseppe Tomei sunk with boms on 09.03.1918 at 16.03h in 41°03'N-09°53'E (that is approx. 40 miles SSE Porto Vecchio) on voyage Sfax - Livorno with 145 tons phosphate 6 crew, incl. Capt. Sorrentino, reached the coast in their boat, no cas
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No, I have seen her war diary and made an note, what happened, but have not the war diary at hand. She sank the PIERO MARONCELLI at 01:40h on 30.05.1918 with one torpedo while that steamer was in convoy Gibraltar - Genova. This convoy was followed by UB 49 since 14:00h on 29.05.1918, she gave up the chase on 30.05.1918 at 07:00h after that attack. Oliver
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No, UB 49 just fired one torpedo, which sank Piero Maroncelli. Oliver
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No, U 74 laid the field: between 56°00‘N and 56°05‘N to the west of 02°14'W in direction 326° Oliver
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Hi Michael, Karl Bünte was CO from 16.06.1918 to 15.09.1918 Fritz Saupe was CO from 16.09.1918 to 30.10.1918 So Bünte is correct... Oliver
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The british Engineer-Lt.Cdr. le Page made an report from Sevastopol to the U.K. every fortnight and reported, that that russian flying boat only suffered from engine failure, was not hit. Oliver
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Hm, not sure if an flying-boat from those days was and "high-seas"-type :-)
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