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14 years ago
Vidart
Woody, According to the index pages of Georg Högel's book "Embleme Wappen Malings deutscher U-boote 1939-1945", 4th German edition, a moose's head was used as an emblem of U 397, U 428,U 2516 and U 2529. However in the book there is not drawn a moose's head at the paragraph describing U 2929, just a devil's head. Also in the paragraph describing U 1064 there is a
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14 years ago
Vidart
Rainer, You beat me with a couple of minutes to do that translation ;-) However, I was a bit unsecure regarding the distance to the first target. As I read it, it looks like 5 hm which would be 5 hectometers = 500 m, or have I missed out totally here? 500 m would be a little to close to miss, unless there was some technical problem with the torpedo. I also wondered if there was some troubl
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14 years ago
Vidart
Hi I would think the SS Fairport sunk by U 161/Achilles is a good candidate: Cheers Vidar
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14 years ago
Vidart
Hi German: Obermaat Royal Navy: Leading Seaman US Navy: Petty Officer 2nd class Cheers Vidar
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14 years ago
Vidart
Here is a link to the official Press release in English: Rgds Vidar
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14 years ago
Vidart
Who needs an atlas if one has Google Earth? Lately I have been exploring the horizontal zooming function to try to identify places in old u-boat photos. It is very interesting. Cheers Vidar
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14 years ago
Vidart
I've bought some new U-boat books recently, and noticed a bit confusion about the abbreviation FAT, of the FAT-torpedo. The first that caught my attention was in the book "Endgame The U-boat inshore campaign" by John White (ISBN 978 1 86227 485 3): "Fluecher Absuchender Torpedo" This one I found quite funny, at least it was a very advanced torpedo:-) White, like man
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14 years ago
Vidart
Hi On the page about U-2336 here on uboat.net one can read: "At 23.03 and 23.06 hours on 7 May 1945, U-2336 attacked the convoy EN-591 near May Island in the Firth of Forth and sank two ships, the Avondale Park and Sneland I." and "This was the last attack carried out by an U-boat in World War II." Then in John White's "Endgame" (ISBN 978 1 86227 485 3 I ju
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14 years ago
Vidart
Hi Peter Yes I believe you got the general gist: i. Repair of the gyrocompass ii. After the detonation, no more torpedo and propeller noise was to be heard. The boat was approached by a plane and forced under water, so it was not possible to watch the effects on the target. (The u-boat had fired a torpedo but wasn't able to watch the result, except that they registered a detonation).
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14 years ago
Vidart
See "The local. Sweden's news in English: and article in Swedish in Aftonbladet.se with video: and pictures in Aftonbladet.se at: Rgds Vidar
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14 years ago
Vidart
Ken, Thank you for a long and interesting reply. Regarding the documentaries, I have noticed the same problem. When you see u-boats with net cutters and Endrass sinking ships, and both are supposed to illustrate the u-boat war in 1943 or 44, you understand something isn't quite right. I think your theory "they just assumed the general public wouldn’t know or care" is quite corr
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14 years ago
Vidart
Hi Thank you MPC Earlier today I did just that. I sent them a copy of my first post in this thread. (Minus the typos :-) ) Rgds Vidar
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14 years ago
Vidart
Ken, I have a book from the same publisher: Jean Delize: U-Boote Crews. Paris: Histories & Collections, 2007. ISBN: 978-2-35250-046-9. Also a very nice book with lots of great pictures, however when I read it I noticed some errors. In this case though, I didn't find them exactly alarming, and all in all I enjoyed the book very much. But when it comes to "The survivor" it
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14 years ago
Vidart
Today I received "The survivor" by Hans Herlin, Pen & Sword Books 1994, ISBN 0850524091 about the "Doggerbank" incident. On the back of the dust jacked there is a picture of a U-boat, and the text below states: "Above: The U43 under the command of Captain Schwantke torpedoed the Doggerbank by mistake in the North Atlantic, 3 March, 1943, with the loss of 343 lives.&q
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14 years ago
Vidart
Hi John, thank you for answering. I have Blair's books on my shelf, but hadn't checked this particular episode at the moment I wrote here on the forum. However, I have not given up the idea that KNM Vigra was involved in the rescue operation. At the time the Norwegian Navy more or less was a part of the British Navy, operating from British bases, largely under British command, so ther
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15 years ago
Vidart
Hi all, right now I'm reading a biography (written in 1947, reprinted in 2008) about the Norwegian skipper Leif Andreas Larsen (Shetland Larsen) who was the most known skipper of what was to be nick-named the "Shetland bus", first a group of fishing boats, later three boats of the SC-497 class of American submarine chasers. (Larsen on "KNM Vigra" - ex. SC-1061). The "
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15 years ago
Vidart
They may have time to think about this problem too, as they now most likely are postponing the salvage operation one year, until the summer of 2011. The work of plannng all the details of the operation has not reached the stage where it should have been today, to start in 2010, neither will the operation be sanctioned early enough in the Norwegian parliament to go on with the operation in 2010.
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15 years ago
Vidart
Hi You may start with uboat.net's Flotilla pages: Then check the 23rd, 29th and 30th flotillas. Cheers Vidar
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15 years ago
Vidart
Thank you Rainer I'm sure your conclusion, and the sources you refer to are right. I've also found another book telling about the shelling of both ships: Svein Åge Knudsen: Ubåtkrig Tyske ubåtmannskaper i norske farvann 1940-1945. ISBN 9788291117683, probably also in the German version: Deutsche U-Boote vor Norwegen 1940-1945 ISBN 3813208419 Best regards Vidar
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15 years ago
Vidart
Here on Uboat.net one can read the following about the sinking of Alcoa Ranger on July 7th 1942: .....The torpedoes missed due to the great distance of about 6000 meters, but another torpedo fired at 09.27 hours hit the Alcoa Ranger (Master Vernon Lancelot Jubb). The torpedo struck on the starboard side at the #2 hold, opening a large hole and causing the vessel to list heavily to starboard. T
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15 years ago
Vidart
Hi It's correct that 2 pieces have been found. A seven meter long part of the mid-section is missing however. It has been believed that this part had been disintegrated by the torpedo that hit the boat, but some experts argue that the torpedo wasn't powerful enough to destroy a part that large, and therefore a third part must be lying on the seabed somewhere. Vidar
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15 years ago
Vidart
Hi The first word could be Schlüssel = key - One can insert a key to the left. Schado is worse, - The "Duden" Dictionary's closest hit is "Schador" which the dictionary says is short for "Tschador", which means veil. Just speculating now: A key with a veil, Make that in metal, then perhaps a key enveloped in a casing. Would that fit perhaps? Cheers Vidar
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15 years ago
Vidart
Here is a better link: Then the wikipedia caption is wrong, it should be type IXD2 Cheers Vidar
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15 years ago
Vidart
Yes, the second link, to a U-boat with a star emblem, matches one of the emblems of U 190 depicted in Högel's Embleme Wappen Malings.... The first link is now unfortunately broken, it points to a Wikipedia page that comes up with "Bad title" on top. Cheers Vidar
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15 years ago
Vidart
Hello If any remains are found, they most likely will be buried in a common grave at the Solheim war cementery here in Bergen. At this cementery 1085 fallen Germans are buried. Any attempts to identify the remains will probably not be done, but to a certain extent relatives will be tracked down and probably be invited to join at a funeral ceremony. Here is a short report (in Norwegian) in a
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15 years ago
Vidart
Woody, Maybe a clarification is needed here. The first link in this thread goes to an announcement from the Norwegian Coastal Administration (NCA) telling that U 864 is going to be salvaged. It says that the operation will be handeled by the salvage company Mammoet, and will take place in spring 2010. The NCA nnouncement holds a link to the Norwegian Ministry of Fisheries and Coastal Affairs.
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15 years ago
Vidart
Hi all Below is a link to a "classical" picture (A29241) from the Imperial War Museum showing surrendered u-boats in Lisahally prior to Operation Deadlight: Does anybody know if there is an "official map" of this setting, telling which boat is which in the picture? I'm asking because reliable sources are differing. In the case of U 992 which I have been studyin
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15 years ago
Vidart
Hi Well, leave the "Sturmwehr" to their own business. You don't have to leave this website: : I. Ob Sturm uns bedroht hoch vom Norden, Ob Heimweh im Herzen auch glüht; Wir sind Kameraden geworden, Und wenn es zur Hölle auch geht. Matrosen die wissen zu sterben, Wie immer das Schicksal auch spielt, Und geht uns're Trommel in Scherben, Dann singt uns der Nordwind e
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15 years ago
Vidart
- There was a relatively long time without updates. I knew Jerry/Charla (and now et al) was brewing on something.... Vidar
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15 years ago
Vidart
Robert, The movie can be downloaded from (I just did it) Cheers Vidar
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