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14 years ago
Mark McShane
Nobby, According to Convoyweb, she sailed as part of convoy OS-44. Regards, Mark
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
122. Re: HG76
Thanks Platon, This info would explain the reported submarine. Regards, Mark
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
123. Re: HG76
Hi John, I can find no mention of any RN submarines escorting HG-76.Pretty sure that by the second half of 1941 the Admiralty had stopped sailing submarines with the OG/HG convoys. Regards, Mark
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
It may have been carrying diplomats? Mark
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
Martin, Yes its the BT 389 series, you can buy these online now on TNA website. Its £3.50 for the cards for each ship. I'm prety sure they have digitised most ships cards now. You can also try this link, its not got a load of ships but its a work in progress and its free. Regards, Mark
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
From Uboot Archive, BDU KTB entry U 109 entered Lorient, U 98 St. Nazaire. The Commanding Officer of U 109 made his report: It was the boat's first patrol. The crew was almost entirely new. Result was a 7,000 GRT ammunition ship. The general impression made by the Commanding Officer was one of uncertainty and worry. The boat sank to a great depth during a depth-c
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
Martin, The ships movement cards would generally have the ships cargo listed alongside the intended voyage. Its a good place to start anyway. Regards, Mark
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
John, I thought the same thing, but if you add the 11 military personnel (counting the naval gunners as crew) it still leaves us 2 short. Mark
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
John, According to the Master's survivors report, there was 63 persons onboard the ship at the time of the attack. Included in this number was 1 RAF pilot, 1 Sub Lt RNVR, 4 airmen, 4 naval catapult men, 1 RDF operator and 6 naval gunners. Looking at the casualties for the 11 May 1942 the two dead from EMPIRE DELL were merchant seamen Humphries and Wilson, who were killed while trying to
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
Rainer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Platon > > I will visit Kew in two weeks and take a look at > the survivors reports of CLAN OGILVLY, BENWYVIS > and RODNEY STAR. Can they all be found in > ADM199/2136? Rainer, I will in Kew next week, will be looking at survivors reports and will get these. If anybody has any other archiv
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
131. Re: U 124
John, There was no reported U-boat activity around HG-69, outbound from Gibraltar she was re-routed further away from U-boat activity that was detected in the vicinity of OG-70. U-124 radioed in the first sighting of HG-70 at mindnight 12 August. U-124 was spotted on 12 August by a Catalina and also by now the SO escort was getting regular messages from the Admiralty that the convoy was being
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
During the night of 24/25 August 1942 several U-boats attacked convoy ON-122, the attacks on Empire Breeze and Trolla in particular are of interest to me at this moment, although the convoy as a whole merits a closer look later. At the moment it is accepted that the sinking of Empire Breeze is credited to both U-176 and U-438 as they both fired at the same time and observed hits. However by exami
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
John, A thread from Ship Nostalgia Mark
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
John, I don't have the survivors reports for CLAN OGILVY, however in John Slader THE RED DUSTER AT WAR, the following is said of the two lifeboats. The Lifeboat containing Captain Gough was picked up twelve days after the sinking by the Spanish ship CABO VILLANO. The second lifeboat with Chief Officer Carter was rescued sixteen days later by the British ship KING EDGAR. There is no ment
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
My Thanks to Jerry for assisting in this query and helping to confirm that U-60 did attack OB_197 on the evening of 14th August 1940. Regards, Mark
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
I have a report relating to convoy OB-197 that states it was attacked on the night of 14 August 1940 at 2024 hours in position 55-44N 09-06W. I have been trying to establish the identity of the uboat, if indeed there was an attack as reported. I have been able to eliminate nearly all of the uboats that were operating in the North Channel area on this day. The only boat that I do not have a ktb fo
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
Rainer, Another update, from the survivors report from CERVANTES, they did pick up 3 crew from AVOCETA. On the night of 26th, CERVANTES was hit by 1 torpedo. They were very quickly picked up by STARLING. Regards, Mark
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
Rainer, Yes that certainly tidies up the attacks on 26th & 27th. Do we have enough information now for a re-assassment of SIREMALM & CERVANTES? Regards, Mark
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
Rainer, From the General Steam Navigation Co History, STARLING picked up 36 survivors from CERVANTES when she was sunk, perhaps crew from AVOCETA where among those that wre taken from the water after there unfortunate second sinking. As you say, there was probably some confusion over HMS STARLING and GSN ship STARLING (which was the only GSN survivor from the OG-71 & HG-73 convoys). Reg
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
John, Interesting that you brought this up, here's what I have found. 26th 2335 U-124 fires at a ship last in column, which sinks quickly. SIREMALM (pdt 23) was the last ship in the outer port column, column 1 had been already destroyed (PETREL, CORTES, LAPWING). SIREMALM was carrying a cargo of iron ore, which would also account for the fast sinking time witnessed by Mohr. An A
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
Rainer, Q1, I'll get back to you tomorrow. Q2, There were 19 seamen in the lifeboat that landed at Clifden, 9 from PETREL, 9 from LAPWING and 1 from CORTES. The other 2 CORTES crew picked up after the LAPWING sunk were two arab firemen anf they died during the two weeks in the lifeboat. The sole CORTES survivor to make it ashore was the bosun, Alfonso Pimentil. Originally from the
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
Rainer, Thats excellent, keep us updated on the outcome. Regards, Mark
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
Rainer, Re picking up of survivors from VARANGBERG, I have read through andother Admiralty file and can confirm that HMS PERIWINKLE picked up survivors from AVOCETA. HMS JASMINE picked up survivors from AVOCETA and VARANGBERG. Regards, Mark
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
John, Thanks for the replies, interesting webpage you found. It was definitley a night of confusion for all concerned. I have put this brief account of what happened to all the men from PETREL, LAPWING and CORTES on this night. CORTES is hit first, followed shortly by PETREL. On a raft from the PETREL are nine men including Captain Klemp. The remaining men are in the water, which there shou
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
Rainer, In answer to your questions, Your explanation of LAPWING picking up the survivors from CORTES and PETREL would explain why she laid stopped. Did you find this information in the survivors reports of LAPWING and PETREL? Yes in the survivors reports from LAPWING & PETREL. Captain Klemp of PETREL states that when he and his crew were in the water, they became mixed up with the
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
For the attacks on HG-73 in the early morning of 26th September 1941 the ships sunk are attributed to U-203 Varangberg Avoceta Cortes U-124 Petrel Lapwing I have been looking into this convoy for sometime now and feel that the ships sunk are wrongly attributed. I hope that the following will be clear and that it is understood. Taking as reference for this are ktb's for U-124 &a
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14 years ago
Mark McShane
147. Re: U 25
Trawler LODDEN was from Lowestoft. Skippers name was Adams. Lifeboat from SONGA containing the Chief Officer and 12 others was picked up and they were landed in Kinsale on 27th January 1940. The lifeboat containing the Captain and 11 other crew members landed at Goleen on afternoon of 26th January. Regards, Mark
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15 years ago
Mark McShane
Hi Simon, I think that log for U-49 you are looking at is some gaming record for guy out in Indonesia. A u-boat shooting down over 150 aircraft, hmmm doesn't sound right. Have a look at his website, I think he makes hearing aids. Akleside was indeed sunk by U-33. Regards, Mark
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15 years ago
Mark McShane
Thats U-53, apologies. Mark
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15 years ago
Mark McShane
Why was Grosse promoted posthumously to Fregattenkapitän? Was this common occurance, posthumous promotions? Only came across this when looking at his page today, was looking into the sinking of the Dalaro. Interesting tally of ships he managed to rack up before being sunk himself. All except one were neutrals, none of them carrying contraband, sailing between neutral ports, sunk in locations
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