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Re: Atlantiksender
Posted by:
Yuri IL'IN
()
Date: February 04, 2002 03:48PM
<HTML>Carl wrote
>I agree with you. But you see many people belive in all of Yuri's double talk
I did not find the precise value of expression "double talk". I understood this as "We say one thing when we mean another".
Can you give examples of "double talk" in my messages. Otherwise I must recognize your statement as false.
>How can one ignore someone from mother Russia? Any statements he provides come from false sources that were written their (in russia).
I use different sources without making attention where they are published. Basic requirement for the source is its authenticity and not the country where were published data. Can you give specific example to the falsity of my information. Otherwise I forced recognize the falsity of your statement
>We all know that they want to write what they feel is history. And oh yes, let's not forget that they never commited any autrocities.
Your statement is lie. Recently I proposed to compare autrocities of the submarines of different countries. <a href="[uboat.net] submarine</a> was mentioned there too. Your statement is lie.
>Never held an Artificial Famine, and never sent people to work and die in Siberia.
<b>Siberia</b>
I propose to discuss U-boats since this site is dedicated U-boats. I gave concrete data for the comparison and considerations. You do not desire to discuss these data. You mention events not referring to the international relations and U-boats. The actions of government inside the country is the internal affair of this country. In 1788, England sent its first shipload of prisoners to Australia, establishing the continent as a penal colony. This is internal affair of Great Britain was achieved in accordance with the laws of this country. Analogously Russia several centuries sends criminals into Siberia. These were the citizens of Russia. There were insignificant number of foreigners among these people which one can disregarded. Give the possibility to Russian themselves to discuss the correctness of this action.
<b>Artificial Famine</b>
Russia is located in the zone of the risky agriculture. Unfavorable weather conditions can lead to the death of the significant part of the harvest. In 1946 there was strong drought. This caused hunger in some parts of the USSR. The deliveries of food in the USSR after beginning of the Cold War ceased. The export of grain from USSR abroad in 1946 was 1230,2 thousand tons. In what countries THE USSR did export the grain in 1946?
Radio station Deutsche Welle (this radio station reflects official point of view of German government) in programm <a href="[www.dwelle.de] of Germany (23).</a>
reported:
<em>History Of Germany (23).
Division of Germany and the beginning of the "Cold War" (prepared by Birgit Gerts)
"... the standard of living was continuously reduced in the western occupational zones. The supply of population is fixed here worse than in the Soviet zone, especially in the hungry winter of 1946-47 years." </em>
Specifically, into Germany Russians exported food in 1946 although in Russia at this time was hunger.
>All this is just Western say so.
Do not assign to me your point of view
>Best thing we can do is ignore him and hope he stays away from this phorum.
>Maybe he can start one over there and tell his nonsense to the people in mother russia.
You cannot bring any concrete charge in my address. Thus the basic charge is that I am Russian. A similar practice is characteristic for the Nazis. You are mistaken. On this site discuss U-boats and they do not propagandize Nazi ideas. Therefore is better if you leave this site forever.
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>I agree with you. But you see many people belive in all of Yuri's double talk
I did not find the precise value of expression "double talk". I understood this as "We say one thing when we mean another".
Can you give examples of "double talk" in my messages. Otherwise I must recognize your statement as false.
>How can one ignore someone from mother Russia? Any statements he provides come from false sources that were written their (in russia).
I use different sources without making attention where they are published. Basic requirement for the source is its authenticity and not the country where were published data. Can you give specific example to the falsity of my information. Otherwise I forced recognize the falsity of your statement
>We all know that they want to write what they feel is history. And oh yes, let's not forget that they never commited any autrocities.
Your statement is lie. Recently I proposed to compare autrocities of the submarines of different countries. <a href="[uboat.net] submarine</a> was mentioned there too. Your statement is lie.
>Never held an Artificial Famine, and never sent people to work and die in Siberia.
<b>Siberia</b>
I propose to discuss U-boats since this site is dedicated U-boats. I gave concrete data for the comparison and considerations. You do not desire to discuss these data. You mention events not referring to the international relations and U-boats. The actions of government inside the country is the internal affair of this country. In 1788, England sent its first shipload of prisoners to Australia, establishing the continent as a penal colony. This is internal affair of Great Britain was achieved in accordance with the laws of this country. Analogously Russia several centuries sends criminals into Siberia. These were the citizens of Russia. There were insignificant number of foreigners among these people which one can disregarded. Give the possibility to Russian themselves to discuss the correctness of this action.
<b>Artificial Famine</b>
Russia is located in the zone of the risky agriculture. Unfavorable weather conditions can lead to the death of the significant part of the harvest. In 1946 there was strong drought. This caused hunger in some parts of the USSR. The deliveries of food in the USSR after beginning of the Cold War ceased. The export of grain from USSR abroad in 1946 was 1230,2 thousand tons. In what countries THE USSR did export the grain in 1946?
Radio station Deutsche Welle (this radio station reflects official point of view of German government) in programm <a href="[www.dwelle.de] of Germany (23).</a>
reported:
<em>History Of Germany (23).
Division of Germany and the beginning of the "Cold War" (prepared by Birgit Gerts)
"... the standard of living was continuously reduced in the western occupational zones. The supply of population is fixed here worse than in the Soviet zone, especially in the hungry winter of 1946-47 years." </em>
Specifically, into Germany Russians exported food in 1946 although in Russia at this time was hunger.
>All this is just Western say so.
Do not assign to me your point of view
>Best thing we can do is ignore him and hope he stays away from this phorum.
>Maybe he can start one over there and tell his nonsense to the people in mother russia.
You cannot bring any concrete charge in my address. Thus the basic charge is that I am Russian. A similar practice is characteristic for the Nazis. You are mistaken. On this site discuss U-boats and they do not propagandize Nazi ideas. Therefore is better if you leave this site forever.
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