In a signal on December 14th,to the U-boats forming to attack this convoy, BdU informed them that there was 32 freighters, 3 destroyers, several corvettes, 1 aircraft carrier, with 6 aircraft and a Unity' Class submarine. Was a 'U' Class included with the escort?, and if so which one? - john
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Hi Nobby, strange signal,with I also cannot find any details of the voyage, apart from she sailed in convoy OG52,(station 32), or what her cargo was, or why she was to be spared. History, she was built at 1,227 tons in 1913 as the Cressida,transferred to England in 1919, as part of war reparations, served with the Ellerman Lines, and was renamed in 1920. She was lost part of HG82, on 8th May 1942
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Hi ken, very interesting, regards john
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this boat had began her return, on October 5th, BdU sent a message "To go on Ireland Circuit at 0800 the next day." What is the Ireland Circuit? - john
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Hi Rainer, The info I have been supplied with for U 108, she was part of the second wave to America, having sailed on the 8th Jan 1942, she returned on the 11th, with ?? engine trouble, and resailed on the 12th.Regards John
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Hi Luke, Jak Mallmann Showell, states there was the 1st and 2nd Watch officers, these were men usually ready to command their own boats. Keeping lookout, in norman conditions, there was an officer, a petty officer and two to three crewmen,on duty for 4 hours, with each man allocated a 90 degree sector. In action stations the CO had specially appointed men in key positions, these included steering
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Hi Rainer, just a thought, was friendly fire excluded? Regards john
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Hi Ken, a most interesting site, thanks for the information, regards John
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Hi Rainer,Thankyou once again for the vauable info, U 108 should have been 1942. regards John
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Are the reason known why the following boats aborted their patrols ? U 103 25.07.43, U 107 6.09.41 & 30.04.44, U 108 8.01.43 and U 123 1.08.43 & 29.12.43.
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Hi, the book 'Blood on the Sea' by Robert Sinclair Parkin ISBN 1-885119-17-8, discribes all USN destroyer losses in WW2. Prior to her loss she was at Pearl Harbour October 42, and was part of cover for TF 61, Aircraft Carrier Enterprise, Battle ship South Dakota, Cruisers Portland, San Juan and the destroyers Porter, Mahan, Preston and Smith. Later she took part in providing cover for U
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Hi Platon, I only had the date her presence had become known to the allies, thankyou for the attack date. Regards John
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The U 119 laid mines off Reykjavik on February 25th, no known result, later on September 4th the U 107 laid twelve TMB mines of Charleston, discovered on the 20th, when one was detonated by the British mine-sweeper J-967, the rest were cleared by the Americans. john
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Hi Martin,204 Group (RAF), recieved a report of a submarine in the Gulf of Sollum, along from Tobruk, since 29.07.41. A Sunderland from 230 squadron, out from Aboukir Bay, Egypt and three RN desroyers were scrambled for a hunt. The aircraft L2166 U, spotted the submarine (Italian) at 32:12N 24/46E, the submarine was prepared for the attack and gun fire greeted the aircraft as it closed. After dro
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Is the rank, and time period on board known for Dieter Hengen? john
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my source for the boats in this group is U 124, U 109, U 94 and U 93, which both sailed on July 12th, with U 124 following on the 15th after aborting on the 11th and U 109 which had sailed on June 28th. U 95 was not involved as she operated S of Greenland as one of 15 singular boats. John
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Hi Eric, very interesting read, much appreciated. Regards john
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THank you for the answer. Regards john
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What rank did Heinz-Ehler Beucke hold when commander of this U-boat? And was his poor performance ,the reason for him being removed from command after only one patrol? - john
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Hi Steve, Jordan only mention's one Sussex, a MV Sussex (11,062) GRT and (13,539) DWT. Owned by Peninsular & Oriental Co and chartered to the Federal Steamship Navigation Company Ltd, built 1937. In Lloyd's ther is no mention of a Sussex being damaged during the war. However, the one you mention is reported in Wynn's book,U 33 laid her mines off Foreland Point on 9.11.39, and o
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I thank you both for time you both spent, and the valuable information provided, and I hope you both have a pleasant time over the coming holiday period, and all the best for the coming new year. Regards john.
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Hi Platon, of the two possible causes for the loss of U 122, HMS Arabis or the SS San Felipe, as there been any further headway as to confirm either or disguard them? - john
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Hi Platon, thankyou for this extra information. Regards John
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Thank you for resolving this, much appreciated. regards John
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Hi Rainer, assuming U 122 did not suffer a problem that would force a return, and therefore was not the boat that sent the long message in the North Sea. The message in question, mentioned in the Wilk incident,if it was recieved in UK it surely must have been reieved back at BdU. The U 99, must be that boat, seeing she had been damaged and no other boat was supposed to have been there? Regards Jo
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This CAM ship,is reported on her loss to have had a crew of 41 plus 7 RAF personnel on board. There were 2 crewmen lost, the escort Shediac rescued 25 and the rescue ship Bury another 21. However in Lloyd's, it stated there was a crew of 43 plus 20 naval, military and RAF personnel on board, these including 1 pilot, 4 airmen, 4 catapult men and a radar operator, with 6 naval gunners, it agre
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Just as thought, thanks for clarifing this article,Any thoughts of why in her last radio report on 21st, why was the sinking of the Empire conveyor (20th) was not mentioned, and did they mention the sea conditions at that time? Regards John
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Regarding the loss of this U-boat, the site www.dutchsubmarines.com/specials/special_the_wilk_case_part_one.htm, opens another posible cause for her loss.
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Having read an account of this convoy's battle, in 'Warsailors.com/convoys/sc19report' I wonder if there suggestion, based on radio intercepts from three U-boats that U 106 sank two ships , meaning U 94 only sank one is correct?.
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Ken, thankyou again for taking the time to find this valuable data for me, i think, as I havn't found any new meetins for a while now, that that should be it for the re-fuelling section of my work. Regards John
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