Hello guys, Simon is right. The commander of the uboat at the time of the laying or seeding of the mine should be credited with the sinking and not the commander of the boat when the mine exploded. In this case it should be KptLt. Carl Bunte. There is another case with U80 and the British trawler Kirkland as pointed out by Simon S. on another forum. link [1914-1918.invisionzone.com] K
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Hello again everyone, 31 Mar.' 18 UC52 commanded by Doemming sinks San Nicola. 31 Mar.' 18 U33 commanded by Doemming sinks La Loire. Something is not quite right. Respectfully, Joe R
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Hi Simon, Transposing of month and date of sinking, who would of thought! Don't forget to change the name of the commander under successes of U39 to Forstmann. Thanks a million and God bless, Joe
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Hi Freddy, Thanks for answering. But a German u-boot site has KptLt Forstmann taking command of U39 on 13.01.15! In the perpetual search for historical fact, which is correct?? God bless, Joe
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Yves,mon ami, Thanks for answering the first part of the question, but who was in command of U39 at the time of the sinking?? Was it KptLt Kratzsch or KptLt Forstmann??? God Bless, Joe
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Hello again Everyone, Does Spindler attribute the sinking of the French sv Hirondelle sunk on 07.02.15 to a uboat and who was in command??? Respectfully, Joe
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Hi again all, According to the lone survivor of Tangistan James O'Toole the explosion occurred at 00:30 on the 9th of March. Makes sense to me now. Thanks to all, JOE
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Michael, That answers the question of the location of the sinking, but does not identify the ship in question. Does the KTB or Steuermann Rath identify the ship and give the time of sinking? Respectfully, Joe
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Hi Michael, How did you come to that conclusion?? Joe
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Merci Beaucoup Yves and God bless, Joe
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Does Spindler attribute the sinking of Tangistan 3738/06 on 09.03.15 to a particular Uboat?? Respectfully JOE R
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Hello Michael D., Very very nice catch. Lloyds War Losses does Not show Gleneden as Damaged at all. My guess is that it will join SATURNA in the category as a "Mystery Sinking". God bless, Joe
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Hi Michael, Here is a maybe or maybe not Re: ALBERTINE BEATRICE. Don't have Hocking's book to verify. Joe
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Hello Piet, I hope you still visit this forum. This is a very old thread, but just recently stumbled across an answer to Telesfora. Ex INCHBARRA, TELESFORA was sunk in a collision with EDOUARD SHAKI on 29th May 1917 off Havre. At time of loss she belonged to Larrinaga Line which makes her British. Hope you haven't lost too much sleep over this. Respectfully, Joe R
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Simon, EXCELLENT WORK! VBR Joe
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Hello MPC Agree 110%! These men should be included as commanders. Hello Simon, If I can be so bold, Submitting an article on the omitted officers would solve the problem. Therefore, the list would contain "all" commanders. Yes I know, easy for me to say. Your friend, Joe
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Good evening Simon, Can't speak for anyone else but you certainly got my attention! I LOVE IT! You really know how to liven up this forum. Your friend, Joe
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Forgot to mention, All 5 fishing vessels are listed on this site: naviresdeguerre.free.fr It is not as exhaustive as uboat.net and there are a lot of omissions, hard to read, no attributions but they list the five f/vs that do not appear on this site. And as I mentioned 4 of 5 are listed in Lloyds as sunk. Joe
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Hi Michael, Your answer was extremely enlightening and informative. Thank-you for taking the time. Ami de Dieu is listed as sunk in "Dictionnaire De La Flotte De Guerre Francaise De 1671 A Nos Jours". The ships starting with "A" can be viewed on-line. It's a pricey book (I'll wait for the paperback) but PERHAPS Yves can find a library that has it. Easy for me t
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Hello Michael D., You are absolutely correct. I missed that one because its not listed in Lloyds,but IS listed in another source. The location for the 4 I listed is Bay of Biscay. Because I don't have any KTBs, we must have patience and wait for the answer. God bless, Joe
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Hi Everyone, The following navires de peche were over looked in the successes of U53 commanded by Oblt zur See Otto von Schrader, all sunk on 02.09.18. Nicolazic 41T Ami de Dieu 45T Etoile Polaire 51T Hirondelle 38T There are more missing but am not sure which. Probably 3 Portuguese at least. Would a learned member of this forum complete the list? Respectfully, Joe R
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Launched as ELISABETH 852/84 by Germaniawerft, Kiel later became JULIUS PALM and sunk as NORMA. Owned by Hjalmar Knudsen, Lillesand Norway at time of sinking. Carrying coal from Savannah to Aarhus. Simon, Danke for Confirming, Joe
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Hello again everyone, Did U58 sink the Norway bark NORMA or is this another mystery?? BTW Under successes of U58 the name of the ship sunk on 5 May '17 should be ASRA not AFRA built by Huygens and van Gelder, Amsterdam in 1897. Respectfully, Joe R
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MPC Sorry if I "puzzled" you, but it beats being "confused". 2. Simon didn't have a problem understanding me, but I can't speak for Simon. 3. The following quote is from the General Discussions forum on this site. RE: New Book On Oscar Kush "Sorry. A correction to my bad English.." Oct 1, 2008 Author: MPC. It can happen to the best of us. Thanks for piling
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Hi again Simon, Excellent...to the point..concise! Much,much better than my poor attempt that managed to confuse MPC. Hope things are good in Potsdam. Again many thanks and God bless, Joe
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Under successes for U90, OberLt. Thomas Bieber is listed as commanding officer of U90 and sinking Spanish steamer VICTOR De CHAVARRI. He could hardly be doing that while commanding UB31 at the same time sinking the GREATHAM. But maybe he was that good. Respectfully, Joe R
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OOPS. Under U90 the commander column, there is a typo. It should be obvious to all. Respectfully, Joe
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Thanks for the quick Fix! Gansser's being relieved of command probably saved his life. Who commanded the U-Kreuser flotilla and saved his life by relieving him of his command??
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HI again everyone, On 16 June 1918, Kpt/Lt Richard Feldt embarked on his first and last command in U156. He therefore can not be credited with sinking ATLAS, ARTESIA,CHARITON,NUZZA and ATLANTIDE. These ships were sunk in Jan. and Feb. 1918.These ships Were Sunk by Kpt/Lt Konrad Gansser commanding U156 on his SECOND war patrol in U156. Gansser's first patrol lasted from 16 Oct. to 28 Oct. 19
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In the interest of having the most complete listing of ships sunk, damaged and captured the following is submitted. MENADO 3814/07 Bonn&Mees,Rotterdam was one of seven Dutch ships in a convoy. Listed as damaged by Lloyds on 22 Feb.'17, MENADO was stopped, boarded and explosive charges placed on board. Not all of the charges detonated and MENADO survived. The Uboat was U21 Kpt/Lt Hersi
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