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Re: U-85 related item on eBay?
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ph0ebus
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Date: November 24, 2007 03:11PM
Hi all,
There is an item on eBay that references an encounter between U-85 and the Q-Ship Q-20, which I had not read or heard before; here is the text from the auction listing:
It was she (U 85) and UC 66 that on March 11, at 4.45 a.m., off Newhaven, i.e. in about 50°40'N-00°08'E, opened fire on the small "Q" ship, the "Bayard" (Q.20), a lugger fitted with a motor and armed with one 13-pdr. and one 3-pdr. Q.20 was on a course S.E. when a submarine on the starboard quarter opened fire. A few minutes later another on the port beam opened fire. The wind seems to have been about S.W., and bringing the ship round to N.W., Lieutenant Walter Scott, R.N.R., sighted a submarine close on the port quarter. The order was given to get the boats out. The submarine was brought on the port beam, and at a range of only about 75 to 100 yards, Q.20 opened fire. The submarine returned the fire immediately, and a shell struck the ship, wounding two men. Down went the submarine, but four rounds were got off from each gun. Two explosions were seen (note: second and third shot of 13-pdr.) in the submarine, which was about 200 - 250 feet long. H.M.S. "Forester" came steaming up and cruised round about while Q.20, which was badly holed, made for land.
For this action GBP 200 was awarded to the ship; Lieutenant Walter L. Scott, D.S.C., R.N.R., was awarded a bar to his D.S.C.; Skipper Joseph Cowley received the D.S.C. and two seamen a D.S.M. Lieutenant Scott never received his in person, for Q.20 was sunk in collision on March 29 (note: C-in-C Portsmouth, Telegram 580 of March 29, 1917. The date June 26, 1917, in Navy Losses is an error); her captain and twelve men were drowned and the bar to his decoration had to be presented to his widow.
You can see the listing for the Q-Ship medals and read the full text here:
[cgi.ebay.com]
My question is this: does the seller have the wrong u-boat attributed to this attack? Or did I miss this in the KTB? I know there are a few folks who are interested in this u-boat and would be very interested in your comments.
Take care,
-Daniel
There is an item on eBay that references an encounter between U-85 and the Q-Ship Q-20, which I had not read or heard before; here is the text from the auction listing:
It was she (U 85) and UC 66 that on March 11, at 4.45 a.m., off Newhaven, i.e. in about 50°40'N-00°08'E, opened fire on the small "Q" ship, the "Bayard" (Q.20), a lugger fitted with a motor and armed with one 13-pdr. and one 3-pdr. Q.20 was on a course S.E. when a submarine on the starboard quarter opened fire. A few minutes later another on the port beam opened fire. The wind seems to have been about S.W., and bringing the ship round to N.W., Lieutenant Walter Scott, R.N.R., sighted a submarine close on the port quarter. The order was given to get the boats out. The submarine was brought on the port beam, and at a range of only about 75 to 100 yards, Q.20 opened fire. The submarine returned the fire immediately, and a shell struck the ship, wounding two men. Down went the submarine, but four rounds were got off from each gun. Two explosions were seen (note: second and third shot of 13-pdr.) in the submarine, which was about 200 - 250 feet long. H.M.S. "Forester" came steaming up and cruised round about while Q.20, which was badly holed, made for land.
For this action GBP 200 was awarded to the ship; Lieutenant Walter L. Scott, D.S.C., R.N.R., was awarded a bar to his D.S.C.; Skipper Joseph Cowley received the D.S.C. and two seamen a D.S.M. Lieutenant Scott never received his in person, for Q.20 was sunk in collision on March 29 (note: C-in-C Portsmouth, Telegram 580 of March 29, 1917. The date June 26, 1917, in Navy Losses is an error); her captain and twelve men were drowned and the bar to his decoration had to be presented to his widow.
You can see the listing for the Q-Ship medals and read the full text here:
[cgi.ebay.com]
My question is this: does the seller have the wrong u-boat attributed to this attack? Or did I miss this in the KTB? I know there are a few folks who are interested in this u-boat and would be very interested in your comments.
Take care,
-Daniel
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