Danke Oliver So this seems to confirm that España wasn't sunk by U 139. But how could she have come to the knowledge of Fechter ? Would it be possible then that this sailing vessel was just damaged or even freed after examination ? Best regards Yves
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Michael, For sure, this is a questionning information. How Fechter who was on board U139 at the time did add that one ? Best regards Yves
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Joe, Michael As we know, U 139's KTB did not survive the war. However part of it has been more or less reconstituted by LI H.Fechter after the war. I have a copy of a "Wegekarte" he drew and it appears clearly on it that España (said to be of 300 grt) was the first ship to be sunk during that patrol. Best regards Yves
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Michael(s), Joe Per U 46 KTB, Hillebrand ws in charge of the boat until the last day of November 1916 (signed by him). After Dec. 1st, it is signed by Saalwächter until Jan.15 then Hillebrand from Jan.16. I suppose that more likely, Hillebrandt went on leave from Dec.1st to Jan.15th though an illness period can't be ruled out. Regards Yves
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Joe We have it recorded as CHAPARRA (not CHAPPARA) in the dbase and under cuban flag. Do you have more details ? Yves
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Also Joe, what was the position of Chappara when sunk ?
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Joe, What is your source ? Per Spindler she is credited to U 155 but not confirmed. Yves
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Created today in the dbase Yves
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OK it will be added Yves
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Simon, Joe Per U 46 KTB, schooner Ladas was not damaged. She was halted by signals, searched and freed although carrying contraband (pit props for Cardiff) only due to the fact that the danish captain had on board his wife and a child and Saalwächter did not want they should be in peril of the sea somme 100 miles away from shore. Best regards Yves
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Seemingly it happened a bug in the run when dbase was built. On his individual file Saalwächter is correctly reported to have been in command of U46 for that period but in the dbase, it appears to have been Hillebrandt. I have corrected this patrol of U46. Regards Yves
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This story is briefly accounted in Bendert (Die UB Boote der Kaiserlichen Marine) but not a word about in Spindler (Der Handelskrieg mit U-Booten), what is rather surprising. Best regards Yves
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Hola amigo No es verdad como lo dicho. Se necesitaria algunas horas de trabajo para sortir los barcos torpedados del fichel de los hundidos por von Arnauld. Puedes mirar aqui : La indicacion T- significa que el barco fue hundido con un torpedo pero todos no estan informados. Espero que mi respuesta puede ayudar. Hasta pronto Yves
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Though most ships were sunk by shelling or scuttling, there is quite a number of ships sunk by a torpedo shot. In fact, there is quite none patrol he did not fire at least one torpedo. Regards Yves
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James Thank you for information. According to Adm. Spindler who is a reliable source, Merkury sank on 20th June. Best regards Yves
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I have changed for Carl Bünte as commander credited with Almerian. Best regards Yves
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Sorry Simon, I did not notice you have the KTB. So could you confirm the dates for each one such as we can fix that. MfG Yves
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Simon, Michael, Seemingly, per Spindler vol. V p.208-209 the last three war patrols of U 73 were operated under command of KL Meusel from 10.6.1918 until 25.8.1918 Per the website dbase we have : Meusel, Karl U-73 16/01/1918 15/06/1918 Bünte, Carl (i.V.) U-73 16/06/1918 14/07/1918 Saupe, Fritz U-73 15/07/1918 30/10/1918 Carl Bünte seems to have been in charge only as deputize commander
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Joe, Discovered the same problem for all the year 1918 concerning U 33 The ship files have been corrected and the bug does not appear any longer. However it still remains on the officers files for Sieß and von Doemming about the period they were in command of the respective boats. The cause is probably a typo in the original database of commanders and it will be fixed soon. Thanks for hunting
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Thanks Joe for pointing that.Indeed La Loire was sunk by U 33 under command of Gustav Sieß. It is fixed now. Best regards Yves
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The team working on a pipeline between Algeria and Italy has officially announced discovery of the french battleship Danton sunk by U 64 19 Mar 1917. Video and details there : Best regards Yves
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Joe Per Spindler, Hirondelle (7.2.1915) is credited to U 39 Best regards Yves
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Well done Michael I was also suspecting something unclear when at first I did not find her in the dbase. Thanks for correction Best regards Yves
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Sorry for the mess I am making tonight. Definitely Tangistan is credited to U 12 by Spindler in his vol.2. Tangistan was the last ship hit by this submarine who was sunk the following day. U 12 had fired a torpedo at a british cruiser, the torpedo missed but struck Tangistan who was steaming close to the cruiser. Yves
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But I have a doubt as this ship is no longer in the site dbase when it is still in mine. I might have missed something, somewhere, some day. Yves
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Hi Joe Tangistan is credited to U 12 Best regards Yves
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Have you ever tried this forum ? [1914-1918.invisionzone.com] Best wishes Yves
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Daniel, I suggest you start researching from this website : Best regards Yves
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Colin, AUBE ex Canadian ROSEMOUNT 1580 grt launched 1896. 1917 under french flag with CGT 1922 Returned to Canadian owners as ROSEMOUNT and same year renamed AUBE still canadian. Broken up 1939 in Canada. Incident you refer to is depicted in another post on the board (surface battle) Best regards Yves
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Could you please first use the search engine of the database on this site. You'll find there your Francoli Regards Yves
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