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10 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear John, Thank you. Spat now over, problem solved, and topic closed. Yours aye, Derek
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10 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear John, I have noted your response to Dani, and should be grateful if you would please advise me just what you think needs to be updated as far as my version of "Deadlight" is concerned. My prime-source info indicates that 116 U-Boats were sunk in Operation Deadlight, 86 from Loch Ryan and 30 from Lisahally. I am however always willing to accept corrections based on other so
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10 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear John, U-1232 had been decommissioned before it was captured in May 1945 in the US enclave in the British Zone. The TNC listed it an "an unallocated submarine afloat", and it was therefore due to be sunk by 15 Feb 46. However it sank in harbour due to bad weather before the US Navy could dispose of it, and it therefore had to be raised in order to meet the TNC recommendatio
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10 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear Ken, Many thanks for this link/info. There is a lot of really good stuff on this bit of the Hyperwar website although, except for the Germany/Japan blockade running details, it does not dwell too much on individual U-Boats. Nevertheless its well worth a browse through the very many topics/papers - a lot of which are useful background information in relation to the U-Boat war. Yo
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10 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear John, The question of the crew details of all the surrendered U-Boats is of course rather wider than this specific discussion about U-295. That said, I have to say that I am not into the topic of crew details - though I imagine that plenty of others are. Indeed, there may even be websites that include such information. My only suggestions are that you should look at the crew interro
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10 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear John, Thanks. However, please note that the list in Paterson's Appendix A is not the surrender from sea list per se (nor does it pretend to be). Rather, it seems to be a list of the U-Boats which he says were at sea on 4 May when Donitz issued his "cease operations and return to Norway" signal. And this was prior to both the surrender documents. And, by the way, wh
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10 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear John, You make some interesting points, and I'll pick up on just two of them. First, Paterson's Black Flag. Yes, it's excellent in places, but in others its not quite so good. Also, he seems to have had some proof reading difficulties (as we all do!). I suspect that the problem is revealed in his Notes and Bibliography. As you will see, they are a bit short on prime
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10 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear Ken, Thanks. Yes, you and David are quite right. The Table in the Captain's Report of Proceedings is slightly confusing. HMS Pytchley with U-295 in tow sailed from Loch Ryan on 15 December (as part of "Group A"). With the normal 2-day transit to the sinking area, this fits exactly with its destruction at 1030 hours on 17 December. Sorry for the confusion.
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10 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear John, My information says that U-295 was towed out of Loch Ryan at 1030 hours on 17 December 1945 by HMS Pytchley. It comes from "Operation Deadlight - Loch Ryan Section - Report of Proceedings" written by Captain (Submarines) Loch Ryan (in HMS Sandhurst) dated 3 January 1946. Where did your story about Lisahally come from? Hope this helps. Yours aye Derek
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10 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear John, Might I suggest that you look up U-3008 on Gudmundur's list of U-Boats. Most of the answer to your query is already there, and "yes": it surrendered at sea. In fact, after its surrender at sea and before its arrival at Kiel, U-3008 wandered around the Western Baltic leading the Allies a merry dance - which is all recorded in the Admiralty War Diary for May 1945.
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10 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear Stan, There were five U-Boats in the Mersey in 1945, and herewith the answer to your query: U-532 The first U-Boat to visit the Mersey in 1945 was the Type IXC/40, U-532,which had surrendered from sea at Loch Eriboll on 13 May at the end of its return trip from the Far East,and which was then taken via Loch Alsh to Liverpool on 17 May for its cargo to be unloaded in the Gladstone Do
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10 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear u1, Many thanks for your interesting post on 30 March about these three Type II U-Boats. Since then I have been doing some more research, during which I have obtained an expert translation of the magazine article, as well as discovering some TNC-related prime source evidence. As a result, I have drafted (see below) what I think to be a fair version of the fate of U-4, U-6 and U-10 in S
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11 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear John, I am not entirely sure of your exam question, but if I read you right, and if it was me, I would be using the Axel Niestle version as my baseline, viz: Type V 80. GW, Kiel. Commissioned as V 80 (no “U” number) on 30 Sep 40 Type V 300. GW, Kiel: U-791. Contract cancelled on 7 Aug 42 prior to keel laying Type Wa 201 (Type XVII?). B&V, Hamburg: U-792. Commissioned o
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11 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear John, I see that you have had no replies to your query, so herewith some suggestions. First, check "uboat.net" itself - there is quite a bit of info re the Walter U-Boats. Second, do the same on "Google". Then, see Axel Niestle's book "German U-Boats Losses during World War 11". With any luck, that should tell you all you wish to know, or at
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11 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear Robert, Thank you, and I confirm that I have a copy of James Wise's book about U-505. Unfortunately, however, the book does not contain comprehensive cover of U-505's two War Bond Tours - hence the need for the question in my first post in this thread in March 2011, and the reason why I have been working on the topic ever since. Wise covers the matter between pages 96 and
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11 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear All, Further to George Harper's post of 22 November, and as I have agreed separately with George, there has been some confusion surrounding U-505's 1st War Bond Tour of six cities/ports in north-east USA in May, June and July 1945. The details are now clear, as follows: On 16 May 1945, just a week after VE Day, a US Navy press release told the American people the story of
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11 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear George, Very many thanks indeed. It's good to hear from someone who was actually there. I have sent you a PM with my e-mail address so that I may let you see the evidence that I have about the Bond Tour, and especially PCE-846's Deck Log for the time that it was in company with U-505. I look forward to hearing from you again ere long. Yours aye Derek
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11 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear George, How very nice to hear from you, and what a wonderful surprise. Thank you. If you would like to send me your e-mail address in a Private Message, then I will send you a copy of PCE 846's Deck Log for May 1945, plus other information that I have collected about U-505's first tour. We can them compare notes and see where I may need to make any changes to my version of
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11 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear Bigyjeep, Might I suggest that you highlight "articles" on the uboat.net home page. You will then see that the 3rd one down is titled "U-Boats at Lisahally 1945-1949". With luck, that should tell you much of what you want to know. Also, by the way, my article was "run" as a feature in the Londonderry Sentinal in July and August last year. I hope t
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11 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear John, I can't help re "Regenbogen" (sorry) - I have not researched that aspect in any detail. However, in view of the follow-up comment which mentions the Walter boats, if you wish to pursue that, then you might like to look at the list of "articles" on uboat.net, where you will find one dated 12 Oct 2010 which describes what happened to U-1406 and U-1407 in Cu
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12 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear David, There is a reference to U-671 on page 852 in the "Sources" section at the back of Clay Blair's book "Hitler's U-Boat War - The Hunted 1942-1945". He says the info is held at NARA in Washington,DC, in one of the ONI (Office of Naval Intellegence) files which covers: "History, sinking and technical details of (36 - of which one was U-671) U-Bo
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12 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear Millar, U-287 was scuttled in the Elbe Estuary on 16 May 1945. There is mention in: Paterson's "Black Flag" on page 24. Madsen's "The Royal Navy and German Naval Disarmament 1942-1947" on page 180. Niestle's "German U-Boat Losses" on page 53, Wynn's "U-Boat Operations - Vol 1" on page 200 (though the information i
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12 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear Sue, You will find what you want about U-963 on the website "uboatarchive.net" Then highlight "Individual U-Boats" Then highlight U-963,press on the "flag", and hey presto all is revealed (in the shape of a UK Int Report). Hope this helps. Yours aye Derek
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12 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear Robert, Thanks. If you would like to send me a Private Message with your E-Mail address, I will send you a set of 6 pictures of U-858 in dry dock in New London in 1945. As an aside, getting info from NARA is not easy (especially for someone like me based 3000 miles offshore). The first problem is knowing where to look, and then to wonder what's in the boxes/files/folders. So
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12 years ago
Derek Waller
55. U-858
Dear Robert, You asked where I obtained the info about U-858 being at New London in June 1945. It came from the RG 19 BuShips files at NARA which contain a number of the New London Weekly Progress Reports about the refit of U-858. These record that U-858 arrived at New London on 5 June 1945. In essence, of the three U-Boats that the US Navy decided to re-fit at that time - U-234, U-87
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12 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear Robert, Thanks. In view of the heading of this thread, I will now create a separate post re "U-858" where I will answer your question about New London. Yours aye Derek
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12 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear Robert, I have seen your message of 12 January which starts off by saying that only 4 (R) 4 U-Boats surrendered in the US in May 1945. In fact I think that you really meant 5! This is because you then list 5 U-Boats in the text of your message, albeit that the number of U-858 is muddled (you say U-585!). For clarity, the 5 U-Boats that surrendered in the US at the end of the war
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12 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear Jim, You are an absolute star. Thank you so much. There had to be a memory somewhere, and your the man with it. Well done, Sir Yours aye Derek
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12 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear All, In March last year I posed a question on the Forum asking if anyone knew the details of U-505’s War Bond Tours in 1945. Since then I have continued my research and, with a lot of assistance from a variety of sources and kind people, I have been able to establish the definitive story which, up to now, has not been recorded on any website, in any book, or even in the records at the
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12 years ago
Derek Waller
Dear All, In addition to my earlier paper about the U-Boats in the Royal Navy after May 1945, I have now written a stand-alone article about U-1407 (HMS Meteorite) and its time in the Royal Navy between 1945 and 1949. Gudmundur has just kindly published the paper on “uboat.net”, and it describes the story of U-1407’s acquisition in 1945, the efforts to hide this activity from the Russians
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