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Re: What If...A Better U-571?
Posted by: cate ()
Date: October 15, 2002 01:04AM

<HTML>It probably is a bit of a generalisation to characterise all postwar American war movies as so one dimensional. But I would agree that on the whole, up until Vietnam at least, they were not notable for the rounded and insightful way they dealt with war. The John Wayne mould of heroic self confidence pretty much predominated. A film as fine as the Enemy Below, or one like the movie mentioned by Hubertus some days ago, 'Time to Love and a Time to Die' was the exception rather than the rule.

After Vietnam the fashion changed and war movie came to pretty much mean 'anti-war' movie. Now it is swinging back slightly, with films like Saving Private Ryan, and war films, particularly those set in WWII, are once more becoming more assured in the justness of the enterprise and the worthwhile nature of the sacrifices involved.

What made U-571 slightly unnerving and anachronistic though, was that as Wachoffizier says, it simply re-embraced the worst and most banal of the anti german cliches and steryotypes. Unlike Ryan and others it seemed to have learned nothing from the intervening years and history.

I'm glad you think we Brits are so frank when it comes to making films Robert, and I'd be interested in which films it is you're thinking of specifically. Generally I prefer the often low key and restrained (well ok then, 'cheap') style of British and European films to US ones, but that's mostly just personal taste / blind prejudice on my part :)

Intrigued

Cate</HTML>

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Re: Everything! cate 09/25/2002 07:13PM
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Re: Everything! Volker Erich Kummrow 10/01/2002 08:28AM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? Barry Scully 10/14/2002 12:28PM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? cate 10/15/2002 12:28AM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? Barry Scully 10/15/2002 07:05AM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? Barry Scully 10/15/2002 07:12AM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? cate 10/15/2002 07:37AM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? ROBERT M. 10/16/2002 10:01PM
Re: Everything! james Stewart 10/01/2002 10:56PM
Re: Everything! tim2 10/11/2002 04:30PM
What If...A Better U-571? Chris M. 10/09/2002 07:22AM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? cate 10/10/2002 12:38AM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? Wachoffizier 10/13/2002 07:26PM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? ROBERT M. 10/13/2002 11:42PM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? cate 10/15/2002 01:04AM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? ROBERT M. 10/15/2002 02:46AM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? cate 10/15/2002 06:52AM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? Barry Scully 10/15/2002 08:59AM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? cate 10/15/2002 09:06AM
Re: What If...A Better U-571? cate 10/15/2002 09:25AM
nightmare scenario cate 10/15/2002 09:40AM
Re: nightmare scenario Barry Scully 10/15/2002 11:14AM
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