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faster fidos and tired XXI's
Posted by: kurt ()
Date: October 25, 2002 01:01PM

Walter:

Do you have any info on how the allies could have built a faster FIDO, say up to 20 knots or so? That would have been enough to kill a XXI. I presume tha main problem is not propulsion but the higher background noise level of faster movement affecting the primitive, first generation acoustic seeker.

Also, about a XXI fleeing a FIDO, I agree that it would be blind and a sitting duck while on schnorkel. But even if it dashed away and survived, it would use much of its battery charge doing so. A Fido travelled around the same top speed as a XXI (12 - 15 knots for a Fido, I believe, and about 15-16 knots (depending on how clean the hull and the state of the batteries) for a XXI. So a XXI would have to go full speed to escape, and that would drain a full charge in 45 minutes, less if the batteries were not charged, or not in tip top shape.

In other words, surviving a Fido attack would leave the XXI badly drained and probably in need of a schnorkel - with those same Avengers watching and waiting.

BTW, surface running from an aircraft would be fatal. The aircrew would strafe the boat without mercy, killing any crew on deck. A sub is delicate, and vulnerable to damage - 20mm cannon fire will puncture a hull, and even sustained strafing from .50 caliber machine guns could damage enough systems to make a sub undiveable, which is the same as unsurvivable. Unfortunately many a sub got to demonstrate this during Doenitz's 'surface and fight it out' period.

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Fido(s) walter M 10/21/2002 09:48PM
Re: Fido(s) Rainer Bruns 10/22/2002 01:38AM
Re: Fido(s) walter M 10/22/2002 11:02AM
Re: Fido(s) Peter 10/22/2002 04:09PM
Re: Fido(s) walter M 10/23/2002 10:47AM
Re: Fido(s) MCE 10/23/2002 04:42PM
Re: Fido(s) walter M 10/23/2002 05:49PM
Re: Fido(s) MCE 10/24/2002 04:30PM
faster fidos and tired XXI's kurt 10/25/2002 01:01PM
Re: faster fidos and tired XXI's Rainer Bruns 10/25/2002 02:08PM
Ranier: fido speed kurt 10/25/2002 05:41PM
Re: Ranier: fido speed Rainer Bruns 10/25/2002 06:34PM
Re: Ranier: fido speed kurt 10/25/2002 07:48PM
Re: Fido(s) Rainer Bruns 10/23/2002 06:02PM
Re: Fido(s) MCE 10/24/2002 04:26PM
Re: Fido(s) Sander Kingsepp 11/06/2002 08:24AM
Re: Fido(s) Peter 10/23/2002 06:23PM
Re: Fido(s) Bram 10/23/2002 07:39PM
Re: Fido(s) ROBERT M. 10/27/2002 03:11AM
Re: Fido(s) Rainer Bruns 10/22/2002 05:44PM
Re: Fido(s) walter M 10/23/2002 06:00PM
Re: Fido(s) ROBERT M. 10/27/2002 09:06PM
Re: Ranier: fido speed Don 10/26/2002 12:46PM
Re: Ranier: fido speed MCE 10/26/2002 02:12PM
Re: Ranier: fido speed Rainer Bruns 10/26/2002 02:58PM
Re: Fido(s) Patrick Meagher 10/26/2002 05:08PM
Re: Fido(s) walter M 10/26/2002 07:34PM
Re: Fido(s) Patrick Meagher 10/26/2002 10:08PM
Re: Fido(s) Sniper 10/27/2002 09:59AM
Re: Fido(s) ROBERT M. 10/27/2002 02:04PM
Re: Fido(s) Patrick Meagher 10/27/2002 05:11PM
Re: Fido(s) ROBERT M. 10/27/2002 09:32PM
Re: Fido(s) Patrick Meagher 10/28/2002 07:03PM
Re: Fido(s) Patrick Meagher 10/27/2002 04:23PM
Re: Fido(s) ROBERT M. 10/27/2002 03:33AM
Re: Fido(s) Patrick Meagher 10/27/2002 03:39AM
Re: Fido(s) ROBERT M. 10/27/2002 02:32PM
Re: Fido(s) Patrick Meagher 10/27/2002 04:45PM
Good Allied Doctrine Mark K 11/02/2002 10:17PM
Re: Good Allied Doctrine ROBERT M. 11/03/2002 02:42AM
"mine" vice "torpedo" Mark 11/03/2002 09:08AM
Re: "mine" vice "torpedo" ROBERT M. 11/03/2002 02:27PM
Re: "mine" vice "torpedo" Sniper 11/03/2002 04:05PM
I think we agree then: Mark 11/03/2002 11:02PM
Re: I think we agree then: ROBERT M. 11/04/2002 04:26AM
Re: Good Allied Doctrine ROBERT M. 11/03/2002 03:26AM
Re: Good Allied Doctrine Sander Kingsepp 11/06/2002 08:15AM


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