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Good Allied Doctrine
Posted by:
Mark K
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Date: November 02, 2002 10:17PM
Late to this thread, sorry
It's been mentioned before, but the Allied doctrine used for dropping FIDOs was particularly well suited to preventing the U-boats from developing a countermeasure:
- FIDOs were referred to as "depth charges" or "mines" in all records.
- Aircrews weren told little about functionality (although they could figure a lot of it out, of course)
- Were only dropped after a sub was submerged.
- If sub was on surface, planes still carried depth charges and machine guns to force them to submerge.
I think the general rule of thumb with ASW torpedoes is that they need to be 50% faster than their targets to reliably catch them. So this means that in order to overmatch an XXI at high speed, you'd need something like a Mk37 torpedo (developed 1957 for ships/subs) or Mk44 (aircraft, 1960). Catching an unaware XXI would of course be easier.
Mark
It's been mentioned before, but the Allied doctrine used for dropping FIDOs was particularly well suited to preventing the U-boats from developing a countermeasure:
- FIDOs were referred to as "depth charges" or "mines" in all records.
- Aircrews weren told little about functionality (although they could figure a lot of it out, of course)
- Were only dropped after a sub was submerged.
- If sub was on surface, planes still carried depth charges and machine guns to force them to submerge.
I think the general rule of thumb with ASW torpedoes is that they need to be 50% faster than their targets to reliably catch them. So this means that in order to overmatch an XXI at high speed, you'd need something like a Mk37 torpedo (developed 1957 for ships/subs) or Mk44 (aircraft, 1960). Catching an unaware XXI would of course be easier.
Mark
Subject | Written By | Posted |
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Fido(s) | walter M | 10/21/2002 09:48PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Rainer Bruns | 10/22/2002 01:38AM |
Re: Fido(s) | walter M | 10/22/2002 11:02AM |
Re: Fido(s) | Peter | 10/22/2002 04:09PM |
Re: Fido(s) | walter M | 10/23/2002 10:47AM |
Re: Fido(s) | MCE | 10/23/2002 04:42PM |
Re: Fido(s) | walter M | 10/23/2002 05:49PM |
Re: Fido(s) | MCE | 10/24/2002 04:30PM |
faster fidos and tired XXI's | kurt | 10/25/2002 01:01PM |
Re: faster fidos and tired XXI's | Rainer Bruns | 10/25/2002 02:08PM |
Ranier: fido speed | kurt | 10/25/2002 05:41PM |
Re: Ranier: fido speed | Rainer Bruns | 10/25/2002 06:34PM |
Re: Ranier: fido speed | kurt | 10/25/2002 07:48PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Rainer Bruns | 10/23/2002 06:02PM |
Re: Fido(s) | MCE | 10/24/2002 04:26PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Sander Kingsepp | 11/06/2002 08:24AM |
Re: Fido(s) | Peter | 10/23/2002 06:23PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Bram | 10/23/2002 07:39PM |
Re: Fido(s) | ROBERT M. | 10/27/2002 03:11AM |
Re: Fido(s) | Rainer Bruns | 10/22/2002 05:44PM |
Re: Fido(s) | walter M | 10/23/2002 06:00PM |
Re: Fido(s) | ROBERT M. | 10/27/2002 09:06PM |
Re: Ranier: fido speed | Don | 10/26/2002 12:46PM |
Re: Ranier: fido speed | MCE | 10/26/2002 02:12PM |
Re: Ranier: fido speed | Rainer Bruns | 10/26/2002 02:58PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/26/2002 05:08PM |
Re: Fido(s) | walter M | 10/26/2002 07:34PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/26/2002 10:08PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Sniper | 10/27/2002 09:59AM |
Re: Fido(s) | ROBERT M. | 10/27/2002 02:04PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/27/2002 05:11PM |
Re: Fido(s) | ROBERT M. | 10/27/2002 09:32PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/28/2002 07:03PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/27/2002 04:23PM |
Re: Fido(s) | ROBERT M. | 10/27/2002 03:33AM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/27/2002 03:39AM |
Re: Fido(s) | ROBERT M. | 10/27/2002 02:32PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/27/2002 04:45PM |
Good Allied Doctrine | Mark K | 11/02/2002 10:17PM |
Re: Good Allied Doctrine | ROBERT M. | 11/03/2002 02:42AM |
"mine" vice "torpedo" | Mark | 11/03/2002 09:08AM |
Re: "mine" vice "torpedo" | ROBERT M. | 11/03/2002 02:27PM |
Re: "mine" vice "torpedo" | Sniper | 11/03/2002 04:05PM |
I think we agree then: | Mark | 11/03/2002 11:02PM |
Re: I think we agree then: | ROBERT M. | 11/04/2002 04:26AM |
Re: Good Allied Doctrine | ROBERT M. | 11/03/2002 03:26AM |
Re: Good Allied Doctrine | Sander Kingsepp | 11/06/2002 08:15AM |