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Re: Fido(s)
Posted by:
Patrick Meagher
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Date: October 27, 2002 04:23PM
I don't believe we gave away MK 16's to our client nations. Reason being the Mod 6 which was the first big production run, was full of problems caused by Navol (H2O2O) contamination and leakage in the torpedo energy section and an overly complicated exercise head. I know in 1961 loading warshots for a Western Pacific deployment on board USS Cusk SS-348, our skipper elected to take Mk 14 Mod 3's rather than MK 16's because of all the problems with them. We still had submarine "operators" at that time who had experienced all the teething problems with the MK 14 during WWII, and they saw a lot of the same kind of stuff going on with the MK 16 Mod 6.
All the Mk 16 Mod 6's were recalled to torpedo stations for a major rework in the mid 1960's. They were reissued as MK 16 Mod 8's. The major change was the replacement of air actuated valves in the Navol distribution system with explosive actuacted valves and a simplified exercise head which was a copy of a MK 14 exercise head. That fixed all the problems with the MK 16.
I shot over 60 Mk 16 Mod 8 exercise units during my five years on USS Barbel SS-580 from 1970 to 1975. They were all HSN. In late 1973 we shot the first Mk 16 Mod 8 warshot in 8 years. It was HSN, ran 88 seconds, hit the target Island of Kahoolawe, and when 740 lbs of HBX-3 detonates it gets your attention. (By the way, I have never heard them get the sound of a torpedo detonation right in a movie.)
My understanding at that time was all the MK 16 Mod 8's were concentrated in Pearl Harbor. I was told recently by a shipmate and former Barbel "gun boss" who was XO on Barbel in late 70's, when the MK 16 Mod 8 was recalled to be taken out of service, Barbel expended her warshots against Kahoolawe the target island.
All the Mk 16 Mod 6's were recalled to torpedo stations for a major rework in the mid 1960's. They were reissued as MK 16 Mod 8's. The major change was the replacement of air actuated valves in the Navol distribution system with explosive actuacted valves and a simplified exercise head which was a copy of a MK 14 exercise head. That fixed all the problems with the MK 16.
I shot over 60 Mk 16 Mod 8 exercise units during my five years on USS Barbel SS-580 from 1970 to 1975. They were all HSN. In late 1973 we shot the first Mk 16 Mod 8 warshot in 8 years. It was HSN, ran 88 seconds, hit the target Island of Kahoolawe, and when 740 lbs of HBX-3 detonates it gets your attention. (By the way, I have never heard them get the sound of a torpedo detonation right in a movie.)
My understanding at that time was all the MK 16 Mod 8's were concentrated in Pearl Harbor. I was told recently by a shipmate and former Barbel "gun boss" who was XO on Barbel in late 70's, when the MK 16 Mod 8 was recalled to be taken out of service, Barbel expended her warshots against Kahoolawe the target island.
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Fido(s) | walter M | 10/21/2002 09:48PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Rainer Bruns | 10/22/2002 01:38AM |
Re: Fido(s) | walter M | 10/22/2002 11:02AM |
Re: Fido(s) | Peter | 10/22/2002 04:09PM |
Re: Fido(s) | walter M | 10/23/2002 10:47AM |
Re: Fido(s) | MCE | 10/23/2002 04:42PM |
Re: Fido(s) | walter M | 10/23/2002 05:49PM |
Re: Fido(s) | MCE | 10/24/2002 04:30PM |
faster fidos and tired XXI's | kurt | 10/25/2002 01:01PM |
Re: faster fidos and tired XXI's | Rainer Bruns | 10/25/2002 02:08PM |
Ranier: fido speed | kurt | 10/25/2002 05:41PM |
Re: Ranier: fido speed | Rainer Bruns | 10/25/2002 06:34PM |
Re: Ranier: fido speed | kurt | 10/25/2002 07:48PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Rainer Bruns | 10/23/2002 06:02PM |
Re: Fido(s) | MCE | 10/24/2002 04:26PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Sander Kingsepp | 11/06/2002 08:24AM |
Re: Fido(s) | Peter | 10/23/2002 06:23PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Bram | 10/23/2002 07:39PM |
Re: Fido(s) | ROBERT M. | 10/27/2002 03:11AM |
Re: Fido(s) | Rainer Bruns | 10/22/2002 05:44PM |
Re: Fido(s) | walter M | 10/23/2002 06:00PM |
Re: Fido(s) | ROBERT M. | 10/27/2002 09:06PM |
Re: Ranier: fido speed | Don | 10/26/2002 12:46PM |
Re: Ranier: fido speed | MCE | 10/26/2002 02:12PM |
Re: Ranier: fido speed | Rainer Bruns | 10/26/2002 02:58PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/26/2002 05:08PM |
Re: Fido(s) | walter M | 10/26/2002 07:34PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/26/2002 10:08PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Sniper | 10/27/2002 09:59AM |
Re: Fido(s) | ROBERT M. | 10/27/2002 02:04PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/27/2002 05:11PM |
Re: Fido(s) | ROBERT M. | 10/27/2002 09:32PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/28/2002 07:03PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/27/2002 04:23PM |
Re: Fido(s) | ROBERT M. | 10/27/2002 03:33AM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/27/2002 03:39AM |
Re: Fido(s) | ROBERT M. | 10/27/2002 02:32PM |
Re: Fido(s) | Patrick Meagher | 10/27/2002 04:45PM |
Good Allied Doctrine | Mark K | 11/02/2002 10:17PM |
Re: Good Allied Doctrine | ROBERT M. | 11/03/2002 02:42AM |
"mine" vice "torpedo" | Mark | 11/03/2002 09:08AM |
Re: "mine" vice "torpedo" | ROBERT M. | 11/03/2002 02:27PM |
Re: "mine" vice "torpedo" | Sniper | 11/03/2002 04:05PM |
I think we agree then: | Mark | 11/03/2002 11:02PM |
Re: I think we agree then: | ROBERT M. | 11/04/2002 04:26AM |
Re: Good Allied Doctrine | ROBERT M. | 11/03/2002 03:26AM |
Re: Good Allied Doctrine | Sander Kingsepp | 11/06/2002 08:15AM |